Peter King Says Favre Is Done

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  1. EcKo151

    EcKo151 Active Member

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    If he retires were screwed. Their is no decent QB out there. We saw Kellen already...And Ratliff? I mean a good pre-season, let him season out...

    I hope for Favre and draft a QB in the 2nd round.
     
  2. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    +1. My favorite thing about his column is how harshly Kissingsuzykolber.com tears him a new one over his stupid comments every week.
     
  3. alngtheway

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    i agree that peter king is an idiot and i usually wanna punch him after reading his articles. however, i have noticed that favre seems to talk to him a bunch. he's always referring to phone calls or texts or whatever that he received from favre and i assume he wouldn't lie about that since he'd get called out rather quickly. so, as much of an idiot as he is, and as much as we know that favre will change his mind 500 times between now and next week, i tend to give peter king some credibility on this topic...
     
  4. Al Dorow

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    How do YOU know Ratliff isn't far enough along? Was FLACO far enough along????
     
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  5. Red Menace

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    I agree.....how about Cassel?, the guy was a back up all his life with the exception of his college career, put a team around the QB and he will succeed...my take on this is, let Brett retire, use next year as your honeymoon year with the QB, Clemens or Ratliff.

    Our special teams is in place, our running game is in place and I'm sure the defense will be better than it was last year...personally I think with a more conservative QB we won't help out the other team by giving them points or good field position.....and this in turn will help us be a playoff team next year.
     
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  6. AbdulSalam

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    Peter King is a loser if he says something assume the opposite is true.
     
  7. greenbeanz

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    my money is on him too. i hope he comes out swingin this offseason and doesnt let an undrafted fa and a 5th rounder beat him. show some damn pride kellen!!
     
  8. Popeye's Army

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    Good, I'm glad the team is taking a hard line with Favre. If the man wants to play this fall (and earn 13M) he's got to put the preparation time in this spring. It isn't some country club the guy is joining. 51 other guys are depending on him. And Favre either has to man up and come to OTA's or he needs to retire. There's no other option.
     
  9. NYJetsMan7

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    I believe P. King made that statement and not Farve himself.
     
  10. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    I can see this happening
     
  11. Big Blocker

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    Serious question - does anyone know or recall how well King did in tracking Favre's off season last year? I understand he may have some line of communication with Favre, but King is frequently wrong and agenda driven. Have his stories about Favre in the past been an exception to that?
     
  12. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    No. King is an idiot who is usually wrong, except when he states the obvious, which is alot of the time.
     
  13. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    I'll take that bet. In an open competition, I think Ratliff would beat Clemens. Now back to Mr. Far-ve, I really hate how he does this shit every fckn year. I'm at the point now that I really don't want his ass coming back. No bowl with or without Far-ve so where's the upside in wasting $13mil in cap space that can be used to upgrade the team.

    It's time to move on and I really hope TanWoody gets it.
     
  14. Coach K

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    theres a reason teams wanted Flacco in the 1st/2nd rd.

    Ratliff was who?

    interesting fact about him that ties Ratliff to Clemens though

    ■ Played for OC Andy Ludwig, who was OC at University of Oregon (2002-04), where Ludwig coached Kellen Clemens.
     
  15. Big Blocker

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    Wow. Interesting factoid.
     
  16. puddnhead

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    Tough call. King never hesitates to drop in his columns that he talks privately to Favre, and he's given such precise scoops and in many cases exact quotes that I don't doubt he does, Favre would have refuted something along the line if its not true.

    I am struggling to remember how the story first broke last year on his unretirement, but I'm pretty sure King was not involved. Also just now doing a quick scan of his SI articles last Feb/march, he did not have the scoop on the original retirement, that was a local Wisconsin sports beat writer I think.

    By the way, as usual, people are reading some of this this way out of context. Here is EXACTLY, in it's ENTIRETY what Peter King wrote that Favre has ACTUALLY SAID on the Jets off-season conditioning thing:
    (my emphasis)

    What this means actually happened:
    • A month ago, apparently in the context of answering a question from King and nothing more, King asks Favre if he's ever done a full program and he says no (a statement of fact -- one that surprised me quite honestly, I thought he used to do them in the 90s at least, and I know he had his rigorous training programs with a personal trainer in Mississippi before both the 06 and 07 seasons, he said this was new for him and he credited them with helping him a lot in interviews during those seasons. But those were not team programs, so no I guess those would not count)

    What people with predisposed imaginations & poor critical reading skills took this to mean:
    • Woddy said last Thusday that Favre should do the off season program, then King talked to Favre in thta context and Favre told him that he doesn't do offseason conditioning ... and then these people started piling on him for "wanting to get out of it" etc.

    To answer your question, what's telling is that Peter King does NOT say he's talked to Favre since right after the Dolphins loss. Quickly scanning what was going on in July of last year to answer your original question, King made a mention then that Favre was not returning his emails and phone calls then either. So, I think we can safely say that in this case King has not talked to Favre for almost a month (if he would had, he would have fallen all over himself to mention it), and so Peter King doesn't really know anything more than anyone else does about this, he is just wildly speculating.
     
  17. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    I want Favre back. Give it one more shot. Come on #4.
     
  18. puddnhead

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    The ties to Aaron Rodgers of the Packers are even more coincidental FYI. They grew up in a two high school town (Chico CA), each went to different schools and even played against each other a little (Ratliff is younger by a couple years), then Ratliff succeeded Rodgers as the starting QB at the nearby community college when Rodgers transferred to UCLA, and now of course both have had the experience of sitting behind Favre.
     
  19. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    But Aaron Rodgers is much better than Brett Ratliff.
     
  20. puddnhead

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    How can anyone say one way or the other? Rodgers I think has proven he can be good. Ratliff could be better, then only thing is he has proven nothing, so you can't say one way or other. It's a "bird in hand vs. two in bush" thing. When all you are is potential, the sky's the limit (heck in kindergarten I still had a shot to be President)
     

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