Note to Jets: Trade Up for Sanchez

No, just potentially wrong about Kellen.

Actually, you've won me over. Screw Kellen Clemens. We've seen all we need to of him. He's a bust, just like that Steve Young guy in Tampa back in the day. Don't people realize he had the lowest QB rating in the league!?! QB is different from other positions. He's not the centerpiece of an offense, subject to and reliant upon the play of the other players. If a QB can't win off the bench, under someone else's playbook, with a crappy offensive line and no running game, he's a bust.

Every QB is a gamble. Period. There may be some good that could come of drafting Sanchez, but he could also be a bust. I watched about every game he played at USC. Hell, I've personally known about the kid since his Pop Warner days. He's a hell of a person, he has potential, and he could conceivably help the team out. Hence why I won't cry about the falling sky if he ends up a Jet. However, even after all that, I'd much rather see the Jets give Kellen the honest shot he didn't have before and use the pick to address a position that's a DEFINITE need, not a potential one.

 

I'm up for it...
I think Sanchez will be a very good quarterback in the NFL. He needs more time to develop though.
I've watched tapes, and he has the makings of being a good QB

 

he sits for a year - which means one of our QBs already on the roster gets his big chance to start a whole year.

he does have the tools, but the need to be refined until he is ready... 16 starts don't help, so he needs to sit.

Ratliff or Clemens are going to start this year... its the years after that aren't theirs.

 

Just how do you understand this, that Clemens is a bust?

I think all the folks here are saying is let's give both guys Clemens and Ratliff a shot before we go out and draft another QB.

This is even more true for a QB whose own college coach does not think he is ready and came out too early. One might argue that statment except this college HC knows very well what it takes to be a Pro QB....

Again, most fans who wish to see just what we have in Clemens and Ratliff understand in Clemens case just how poor that offensive line was, he thrown behind. An this happened only after a seasoned veteran and former MVP was battered beaten and harashed and could not get it done.

I think I speak for all those who feel we should give our own a shot first ,when I say, none of us believe that either QB is a sure thing. Both Clemens and Ratliff could turn out to be nothing but wastes of time. Yet, you have to know that if either one of these young men were that bad they would have surely been gone this year.

Do you think Atlanta has ever stop kicking itself in the ass over B Farve or Tampa bay over Steve Young? I'm not saying that either of these young men are those types of QB's. What I am saying is we better know damn well they are not before our trash becomes another team long term answer at QB.

Drafting Sanchez after only one year as a starter and his own coach expressing fear that he is not ready would be nothing less then fool hearty.

Then taking to consideration the cost of that pick because it's a QB and the fact that he will not start anyway?????

Well we get right back to the original issue of allowing the guys that are here and know the system already a chance to prove they were not a mistake.......

 

I'm fairly comfortable with our QB situation currently. I think either Clemens or Ratliff will step up in what will be a limited role at their position.

 

much better post... though i hope you're wrong

 

If we draft Sanchez, he has to sit for a year. And if the starting QB does well, then you have a situation like the Browns, in which you have your supposed QB of the future groomed and a guy who has trade value because he performed well. This is like the Pats situation too.

And worse case, you trade the starter who did well (let's just say that's Clemens), then find out that Sanchez isn't the guy. We would still have Ratliff to possibly take over. It's not an immense gamble, in my opinion.
I don't necessarily think we should draft Sanchez, but it'd be very hard to pass on him if he's sitting there at 17.

 

We aren't "betting the house" on any quarterback. We will undoubtedly be a run first team and we only need a quarterback who can do what will be asked of him, and that will be to connect on quick throws and do a decent play-action.

 

the problem with this is... you find out clemens is good, then you trade sanchez for a lesser value... i e. no one will pay a 1st for him... that's why i think we should use the best value we got at 17 and take knowshon/WR

 

All you need is a quarterback who understands and can play in your offensive system. The more experience you have in that system, the more effective you will be. I believe Clemens is currently very comfortable with our system and Ratliff isn't far behind. Just look at Big Ben in his rookie year and Joe Flacco last year. Neither of them were that impressive but they were put in good situations where they could succeed in the system.

 

note to thread: stop existing

 

i agree 100%, ppl on this board act like Kellen Clemens and Brett Ratliff are godsends...we need sanchez

 

I'm not completely against drafting him at 17, but I think it would be a huge mistake to trade up for him.

I'd much rather see us grab Hakeem Nicks in the first round anyway.

 

KC had similar numbers in the same conference and did better at the combine. He's faster and stronger armed than Sanchez. Why would Sanchez be the better pick? Be honest, have you watched MS play other than the Rose Bowl?

 

I do not see the Jets as trading up.

 

so clemens sucked because he wasnt amazing in an 8 game span behind the worst OL in recent jets history featuring two players no longer in the NFL?

yeah you should be the jets new scout and director of player personnel.

since when was 8 games the tell all tale of a qb?

do you also realize we had no run game either that year?

your awesome :up:

 

Since when does the run game effect the qb's passer rating?