Its called " I want to start a post, I have nothing intelligent to say, lets ignore fact and say someting negative" We have 4 new guys in the secondary, 1 LB and 2 DL. I nomally would not waste my time replying but this was so easy I had to. In addition, the season starts 5 months from now, not 5 days. This so called veteran fan observation makes one think that the off season is over. Can't we have a vote to suspend posters for stupidness instead of vulgarity.. seriously, something needs to be done so this site does not turn into WFAN overnight
did i make a "mistake" in writing this thread?????????????? thanks for the english police giving me a writing ticket for those mistakes with cutler the jets would challenge for the division we didn't get him so who knows what will happen. its a long shot if the jets do well
Why don't you give up already then? It seems like you're on the verge of suicide. It's a misteak to waste your time here...complaining. The signings of Bart Scott and Jim Leonhard plus the trade for Lito Sheppard shore up our secondary and interior linebacking corps. Smart, helpful moves. Marques Douglas is an aging vet now, but he'll help Ryan install his defensive line scheme and he'll provide a rotational player. Howard Green gives us a rotational nose tackle...and I'm willing to bet he'll be more effective than Sione Pouha. Cutting Coles was a smart move...it gave the team a lot cash and it prevents a potential problem in a locker room. He's a small receiver on the downside of his career -- I have no idea why some fans get so attached to players. When they're done, cut 'em loose. Bart Scott is the only big time player we signed...who the hell cares? He was arguably the best defensive player on the market. This off-season had a relatively weak free agent class. We still have the draft to bring in more help and I have a feeling the Jets will be spending big in 2010. It's always a long shot for any team to do well...
No gloom and doom here. I really like what Rex has brought to our team and we haven't played a down.We brought in a new coach that has ties here, not a rerun or from our rivals.We might have a shot at developing our own QB, are you kidding me? By keeping Schotty and Westhoff, we keep 2/3 of our schemes intact. I don't even feel this will be a rebuilding year. A few concerns for me right now are: A good blocking TE, who will replace coles and depth on the OL. I see no reason we cant pull off at least another 9-7 season.
There will be plenty time for doom and gloom IF this team underachieves this year. So far, I've seen absolutely nothing to give me that impression of a Ryan coached team. Mangini, an over-the-hill Farve coupled with an overmatched defensive philosphy were as much a factor in last season's collapse as anything else. I don't see that happening this year and if it does, as with any new system, the wrinkles will be worked out. It may serve the OP well not to think short term here but instead, 2010 and beyond. Its been 40 years and most likely 41 as well since our last SB so although I can understand the frustration, it is misplaced in this instance. Don't be in such a rush. This team won't become contenders overnight no matter who gets signed or drafted. Better not to build a house on shifting sands but instead, on a solid foundation of strong defense and mistake free offense with deep strike capability. Patience, Jedi Apprentice..
If we would have landed Cutler we would have given up two first round picks, a 3rd round pick and either Kellen/Ratliff and thats what an NFC team gave them along with Orton...We are in the AFC and we have no proven winner like Orton so that means...The Jets would of had to give up some more draft picks. No thanks. We would enter the season with a lot of holes as far as deph goes and that means we could be one injury away from a disaster season. I'm glad we passed on Cutler, I'm glad we still have the draft to look foward to and I'm glad we still have picks to improve and build a strong team. Cutler cant get it done all alone and with no D in Denver, he couldnt get it done. Give me a... Playmaker of a WR in the 1st round. Either Maclin or Harvin. A Power back like a Shonn Greene in the 2nd round. A 3-4 DE that can spell Coleman/Ellis on the D-Line with our 3rd round pick. A 3-4 NT that can spell Jenkins with our 4th Round pick (Why did we release Mosely?) And with the later rounds, we can draft deph for the O-Line, CB and LB positions. Oh yeah...Maybe next year we could draft another Revis/Harris with our 1st round pick Give me something like that over Cutler any day of the week.
you really have no understanding of football, do you. Having a franchise QB (an elite one to boot) is worth its weight in gold in this league......and don't get me wrong, i've moved on from the Cutler discussion.....but to say he wasn't worth going after..because you didn't think giving up some unproven draft picks was worth it.....is pretty damn retarded. No surprise there. The QB position is the most important on the field......Cutler solidfies the Bears' QB position for the next 10 years if he stays healthy.......i'd give up a few draft picks for that.....and i'm sure some of the other Jet fans on the board would too.
And I'm sure that other Jet fans on this site would love to give Kellen a chance to win behind a Solid O-Line and strong rushing attack before we go and sell our whole draft, plus next years 1st for Jay Cutler. I'm sure that alot of other Jet fans would like to see what we have in either Kellen or Ratliff, and THEN look to draft a potential franchise QB next year if they cant get it done. I'm not sure you understand what giving up two first round draft picks, a 3rd round draft pick , plus a starting QB can do to a teams future. Just look @ the Bucs after they gave up the farm for Gruden, put it this way...It's hard to find young talent with potential when looking @ the Bucs roster ever since 2002. And in case you didn't know, which I'm sure you didn't know, but... The Broncos got Orton from the Bears when they traded Cutler and Orton has a winning record as a starting QB and thats something the Jets dont have on our roster (As of right now.) And the Bears are an NFC team, the Jets are an AFC team, so you know what that means? The Broncos asking price would have been alot more. We would have had to give up a LITTLE more than just two 1st rounders, a 3rd rounder and Kellen. We would of had to give up alot more than that. No thanks. P.S...Cutler is not Joe Montana or Tom Brady. You dont have to trade away the whole draft for a franchise QB You act like Cutler is going to be the last "Potential Franchise QB" drafted into the NFL. Just go ask the Falcons and Matt Ryan about that one. And I can bet my bottom dollar that Stafford will be elite, Sanchez has the talent and potential to be a young stud and QB's like Bradford and McCoy are all ranked better than what Cutler was ranked coming outta college. Leinart and Young were the two QB's ranked higher than Cutler and you know what that means? With a good front office and solid scouts, a QB like Cutler can be drafted without giving up a crazy ammount of draft picks. You said something and asked me something like... "you really have no understanding of football, do you?" No my friend, I think your the one who doesn't have an understanding of football.
This is a pefect example of a thread that didn't deserve all the attention it has received. If I started one that said "The Jets will go 4-12 his year" and list 5 stupid reasons why, it would be just one person's opinion, yet would garner as much attention as a rooster among a hundred hen pecked chickens in a hen house.
I could not disagree more with this. Teams with young QB's that they use high draft picks on or think highly of need to eventually give those guys a chance to play. Otherwise whats the point of wasting time, money, and picks on them? Our offense isnt as bad as people make it out to be. We still have a very good O-Line with 2 good RB's. A game changing RB in Washington and a TE in Keller who I think is going to be a very good player for us. He will create matchup problems for opposing D's and should build off his strong rookie year. We have a good number 2 WR in Cotchery and then a good slot player in Stucky who I think a lot of people would like to see be given a chance to have a bigger role in the offense. Then we have the rest of our WR's (Wright, Clowney, Smith) who for number 4 and 5 WR's are not really bad. We need a number 1 WR but we have needed a number 1 WR for a long time. We need a QB as well but the Jets have guys they like and want to develop. Whats wrong with that? I guess they could go out and sign another old aging QB and then be in the same place they are in now 1 or 2 seasons down the line while accomplishing very little along the way but thats not really building towards anything. Theres nothing wrong with trying to develop players. On Defense while I do think the Jets still have some work to do (DE, and another CB) they have done a good job bringing in players. They have 3 guys at LB that I am very comfortable with in Scott, Harris, and Pace and hopefully Gholston will excel under Ryan and play like the number 6 pick in the draft. We have one of the best CB's in the league and a very good 3-4 NT as well as a very good FS. The defense needs a little more work but it isnt as bad as you make it seem. If the defense plays like the way a lot of people think it will play then the Jets season will rest on the shoulder of whoever is playing QB and their ability to run the offense Ryan wants to run. If the Jets stay with Clemens or Ratliff at QB and both are bad then yeah the Jets could be in for a long season but that could happen to any team with a young QB. The Jets want to see what they have at that posistion.
You totally missed the point I was making.....really not a big surprise...given the audience. I'm not going to explain myself again.....it's not worth it.....I'd be better off just handing you a coloring book....and calling it a day.
Admit it, the truth hurts and with my previous post (You had not idea what to say after that) I made you STFU already. Try to go against anything and everything I say on this site? Well guess what? I can dish football talk right back at ya. And in this case, with my last post on Cutler...You cant say shit about it.
Nah, I didn't "Miss the point you were trying to make" All you do is go against everything I say on here...Rookie. Admit it, the truth hurts and with my previous post (You had not idea what to say after that) I made you STFU already. Try to go against anything and everything I say on this site? Well guess what? I can dish football talk right back at ya. And in this case, with my last post on Cutler...You cant say shit about it.
i'm not going against every you say....Logical thinking is. And as far as your last post goes....i refuse to address it, because i'm sick of repeating myself....you're too stupid to understand.
There some folks on this board that would only have been happy if the Jets had gotten every big name available this offseason. Time for a reality check. They got the big name they wanted in Scott, to change the defense into Ryan's. If they can score as many points as the Ravens, (no great shakes), they have a shot at the playoffs. I think folks need to realize that you can be happy with progress. You don't have to go to the Super Bowl in one year.
you've missed the point you jackass....i said the Jets need a Franchise QB and that Cutler is one of those types a of QBs.....Franchise QBs are worth their weight in gold and are tough to find. I also said i've moved on from the Jets not getting Cutler. Learn to read....
