I saw jets Nation and I think Sanchez is a Jet - help

Gotta tell you, saw the same interview and Sanchez is a very likeable kid who was saying all the right things.

I certainly hope the Jets in no way draft the kid and we go with what we have on the roster right now. Yet, just listening to him, and he is very well spoken and confident without coming off as an asshole, you realize why people like this kid so much.

What we all must remember is dispite this he would still not be someone who would help this club for two years and being a good interview does not make you a pro QB. Add to that the fact that we have so many needs of players who might help the cause sooner....But no doubt nice kid though

 

I'd be really excited if the Jets were able to draft Sanchez. However, I think he will be a Top 10 pick.

 

Sanchez is moving up on everyones draft bord ... No way the Jets get him. We have the QB of the future on the roster.

 

I would have no problem with the Jets taking Sanchez but they are saying he could go as high a four to the Seahawks. I think unless we trade up for him we have zero shot to get this guy.

If we do get him let him sit for a year like Carson Palmer did. First let him learn the playbook, second let him get adjusted to moving cross country & living in New York by himself that is alot for a twenty two year old kid with millions in the bank.

Also this is Kellen's "walk year" let him play lets see what he has got if he does well we can trade Kellen or Sanchez that is a good problem to have. If Kellen gets beat out by Ratliff let him leave cause he is no good anyway & next year let Ratliff & Sanchez battle it out.

 

I'm almost positive that we don't.

The Sanchez interview was impressive. He said all the right things and on the field has the tools to be a franchise QB. If he makes it to No. 7 or 8 we should trade up to get him.

 

Sanchez will be long gone before we can pull the trigger to move up to get him. I have seen some mocks taking him no.4 to Seattle (makes sense). It's not just us who like him, he seems like a good guy whose only strike against him is starting experience at the collegiate level.

I think he will pan out in the long term....but he won't be starting his career here.

We have to hope that we have the answer for QB on our roster.

non-related: don't make early training camp reports get you excited about our Offense. The defense is learning a completely new scheme while the offense has been a work in progress for years now.

 

A lot of people have Washington moving up to #3 to take him ahead of Seattle. They're saying he's almost a lock to go top 5 now.

 

He's been in the limelight since his senior year of high school. He may not have been a three year starter like Stafford or Freeman, but USC had much better talent at the quarterback position than UGA and K-State.

Southern Cal is referred to as Los Angeles' NFL team. The Trojans have the most talent in the nation, run a pro-style offense, play under a former NFL head coach, and destroy almost everyone they play.

If the Jets want a quarterback in this year's draft, it HAS to be Mark Sanchez.

He may not have a ton of experience, but he's got way more confidence than the other two big name quarterbacks. A QB need that in New York...

 

If he gets past 5 which right now seems like a mighty big if, I think the Jets would and should be burning up the phone lines trying to get up for him. For those that want him we have to hope he gets by Cleveland, then he is in play.

 

I wouldn't trade up to get him...

Every year, it seems the QB's "move up" the week before the draft and then on Draft day you see Brady Quinn fall off the map.... WHY??? Because teams are desperate to trade out of the expensive picks and having QB's in demand and having media and fans screaming for their team to trade UP is all in their advantage.. So, why not hype the QB's now after 6 months of saying they were pooh.

Going into the draft season and before all the hype - the concensus was pretty much that this draft class was not good..... I'll stick to that right now and look for someone in round 1 that can contribute... I'd rather have Pettigrew and build a dominant run game.

Maybe Freeman drops to round 2????

Next year the draft class is supposedly better... See what you have and then if need be get the QB next year - either draft or FA.

Too much money and risk tied into drafting a college QB - and it's really a rollof the dice - People said Leinert, Russel and Young were the Real Deal - People said Matt Ryan and Flacco were a step below... Who the hell knows.

QB is the hardest position to project and develop...

Give Clemens the shot.

 

I find it very easy to be won over by this guy. He has swagger and ease that I think would translate well in NY, I'd like to see how well he could handle himself with the Jets.

 

Look at Joe Flacco's stats and tell me he's the real deal -- awful stats, especially in the playoffs. The Ravens' defense led them to the playoffs, not Flacco.

 

I saw the interview, I liked him, too. Still not sure I want a third (or fourth) unproven QB in the mix but if we take him we take him. Then we can wait for the first "Drity Sanchez" headline when he has a bad game.

 

OK, so I'm even more against drafting a QB in round 1.

I just think Pettigrew can do wonders for this offense even if one of us were playing QB...

 

A blocking tight end that offers marginal upside as a receiver? Sure, BP would be decent as a check down option and as an underneath target, but he's not going to tear up the league as a receiver.

Drafting Pettigrew would make the Dustin Keller selection pointless -- Keller would be off the field more than he needs to be.

This team can draft a guy like Bear Pascoe or Richard Quinn or Anthony Hill after the 3rd round and get the same type of player late in the draft.

 

I'd love for the Jets to draft Sanchez, but on the 17 pick not in some franchise altering trade up that makes the risk too high to be worth it.

If the Jets do a big trade up for Sanchez then all of the following things will have to be true:

1. He performs extremely well out of the gate and is at a playoff level performance in the first year or second at the outside. This is because the Jet's current roster has a fairly short window of opportunity for a lot of the talent on it - no more than 3 years at the outside for several key players. All the future value we'd give up to get him in addition to the 17 mean we have to win now if we go get him.

2. The Jets don't get hamstrung by a key injury (Jenkins, Harris, Scott, Ellis, Mangold, Ferguson, Sanchez, Cotchery, TJones, Cotchery, Keller) even if Sanchez does come out of the box firing bullets instead of the usual rookie blanks.

3. The locker room stays cool despite Clemens getting passed over again and Ratliff not getting a chance as a rookie breezes in and is handed the job.

4. Rey Ryan and the coaches actually can provide an elevated level of coaching and motivation, something no Jet's coach has been able to do since Parcell's crew was in town - and I recognize that for brief moments (Herm in 2002 with "you play to win the game" and Mangini in 2006 patching together a broken team into 10 wins) it seemed like we had this recently.

I'd happily take Sanchez on the 17 and risk the above. I don't want to trade the 17 and a 2nd or 3rd and next year's 1st to take those risks. If the Jets could actually get a team to take the 17 and Gholston and Dwight Lowery or something like that then by all means go for it.

 

Mark Sanchez cannot start right away - Kellen Clemens will be the starter...at first.

It's a lot like Drew Brees/Philip Rivers or Jon Kitna/Carson Palmer. The Jets may find out that Clemens is a good quarterback.

Sanchez should not be thrown into the fire. Let him learn the offense and the speed of the game before he's put into a game.

This is a kid that has all the things you look for in a franchise signal caller - but you can't put him out there before he's ready.

 

No way man. Clemens is no way no how as good as Brees and he hasn't performed remotely as well as Kitna - who was an established vet when Palmer came on line.

There is no way the Jets draft Sanchez and don't use him right out of the box. Even if by some miracle Clemens managed to win the competition in camp, which is unlikely given how poor his performances have been when matched against a clear favorite in the past, he'd be under the firing gun with every decision he made on the field in the first few games.

Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco beg to differ with you here. Recently teams have drafted QB's with the intention of playing them if they looked good in camp - and gotten great results in doing so.

There's no way it's better for the Jets to play another young QB over Sanchez if they choose to draft him. It's not like we have Jon Kitna or Drew Brees sitting on the depth chart in front of Sanchez in that situation because we don't.

 

Did you see how poorly Drew Brees played in San Diego before they drafted Philip Rivers?

2002 - 17 TDs to 16 INTs

2003 - 11 TDs to 15 INTs

Jon Kitna was a journeyman quarterback that had five out of six seasons with more INTs than TDs before he played well in Cincinnati. Out of 12 NFL seasons, he's only had two in which he's thrown more touchdowns than interceptions. I wouldn't necessarily call him "established". The Bengals drafted Carson Palmer because Jon Kitna was no more than a band-aid...

Ben Roethlisberger was not an immediate starter, plus he had way more experience at the college level - he was a three year starter for the Miami Redhawks.

Matt Ryan was Atlanta's best option - who else would they have started? Joey Harrington or Chris Redman? That team was one giant clusterfuck...

Joe Flacco? Look at this guy's stats and try to argue that he's the reasons Baltimore made the playoffs. Flacco is the reason why the Ravens LOST in the playoffs...14 TDs to 12 INTs and under 3000 yards passing. If Troy Smith wouldn't have been sick early in the season, he would've started the seasons as Baltimore's QB.

Kellen Clemens knows the offense, he knows the team, and he's been here. It's a smart move to start the "veteran" guy over the unproven rookie.