We had no choice folks.....

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  1. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    it appears most of the masses like what the jets did on sat-sun with their quality over quantity approach highlited with the QB at #5.....

    for those who are irked by the method we have to look back a couple drafts and up to the pats for reasons as to why this was sorely needed......

    first it has been documented that the jets did make a play for leinart, albeit not a very serious one, but a play nonetheless. they had a plan for cutler as well but the broncs foiled that one. they even had something cooking for flacco until the ravens moved up to nab him. so the jets have had several opps to land a QB but didn't pull the trigger until saturday.

    Now, at least for a couple years the jets have their QB and can blindly build their team around him - hoping that he gets it in year 3 and carries the team like manning carries the giants/colts, brady carries the pats, etc etc. this pick loosens the QB noose for years to come. i do not think we realize how much this helps the next 2-3 offseasons where we do not have to worry about the QB spot and can focus on other skill spots.

    the ultimate price is miniscule compared with the possible benefit. many are bitchin about the pats and how many picks they had. fuk em. its a crapshoot and the last thing belichek wants is the jets getting their QB.

    sanchez HAS to start right away - we have a good line in front of him and good running game - most of which should be intact when he matures and begins to excel as expected. the jets will have the opp to provide 1-2 go to receivers for him next offseason so the package will evolve in front of our eyes.

    one more thing about the pats - their QB spot has been set for years which has enabled them to have the philosophy of BPA, deal down, and stockpile picks. we cannot give them that much credit for it.

    kudos to mangini for pulling a KC-NE type swap for the jets. you can bet the pats do not like the compensation the jets gave the browns one bit. fuk em again.

    kudos to the jets and hopefully this is the guy to ride to a SB

    jil
     
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  2. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I've been thinking about that all weekend. Bellishit must be livid..next time he will think twice about how he treats an ex-coach.
     
  3. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Great post as usual Jil. You're right about Sanchez starting too. I was against it but have changed my mind. We have the OLine to keep the kid off his ass so he should learn the Hybrid WCO we run fairly quickly. If one or two more of our WR's turn out to be pro caliber, we won't be half bad on offense. Especially if this kid Greene is the destroyer his film clips makes him appear to be.
     
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    No choice? Sanchez has to start right away?

    How's that on both counts? You don't make the case for either.
     
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    Yeah, and he's wrong on both counts. We didn't HAVE to draft Sanchez, but given the deal we got, it was the right move. I'd hardly call it mandated, though.

    The second one is absolutely a dangerous idea that has been kicked around here quite a bit: this notion that people will be dissatisfied if he's not our starter from opening day on. I'm not sure people realize how high the fail rate is for junior QBs. The one consistent factor is how quickly they were rushed into an offense. Junior QBs are much more effective if you give them time to learn the offense before throwing them on the fire. I don't want to rush Sanchez and have him flame out because he wasn't properly developed.
     
  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Normally you are absolutely right but how many of these junior QBs played 4 years in a pro stype offense? Probably not a single one of them. That is something people are forgetting about Sanchez..not only did he play in a pro offense but he practiced everyday against the #1s on the USC defense, 10 or 11 of them who were drafter this weekend and will also be starting in the NFL this fall. He has much more experience than your normal JR QB.
     
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    KOZ Totally Addicted

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    Someone call the police. Apparently, a hacker has broken into Don's home PC and written something pseudo-positive about the Jets.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Not true...i have been upbeat about this draft all weekend.
     
  9. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    thats right - the jets did not have a choice - they had to make a move and IMO it was gift wrapped.....

    the team has tried to get a QB for the last 3 years and would have been looking at a colt mccoy sweepstake next year.......go tell me the jets would be able to swing a deal next year like this one??

    IMO - this was the open window and they jumped thru it, and rightfully so.

    allow me to define "start immediately"
    IF he picks up the offense and clemens doesn't significantly outshine him in preseason - sanchez has to start game 1. i expect both to happen. its a good spot for a rookie QB - good line, good runnning game, this far from a texans/carr situation.

    please do not forget the head coach just saw a rookie (flacco) come in and succeed so the pendulum is already swinging to sanchez.

    we all know about the % failure rate of junior qb's, learning curves, etc etc - there are other forces at play here that are just as important and should not be ignored.

    the initial post was not intended to be right...or wrong. it is sensible opinion supported by facts.

    jil
     
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    Can Sanchez start craming the playbook now and start in the weight room, working with coaches, etc. without a signed contract or does that fiasco have to get ironed out. If true; and the contract issue drags out into camp and slightly beyond that will allow Clemens to start the season otherwise we will be throwing Sanchez to a bledgeoning.
     
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    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    He can probably get the playbook. They gave it to him two days before they worked him out last month. The rest of it is a no-no. He could get hurt.
     
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    Not only all of that, but I believe he can show up to camp although most agents frown on taking that kind of risk without a contract.
     
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    If Sanchez can't pick up the watered down WCO that BSchott dials up every Sunday, then we've seriously have made a mistake in this entire Qb episode. All Ryan and BS will ask him to do is not make mistakes with the ball and mostly hand it off or dump it off. It shouldn't be that hard for Sanchez to start if he has the tools and is truly a Rd. 5, blue-chip pick.
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    The first time the kid takes a snap in a game he could get hurt. Can't plan a kids career on that possibility. The Jets used to play "not to lose". I sure hope to hell they don't start playing "not to get hurt" too..
     
  15. notjustQBs

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    Sanchez' Competition Was Still Sub-Rookies Last Year...

    I have the feeling that NFL defenses look forward to rookies, especially behind the center.

    Ryan and Flacco were anamolies. I don't feel comfortable banking on their "success" -- I suspect the Falcons' tougher schedule this year will change the narrative a little bit, and we don't know how over-powering the Ravens will be one year later / older without Rex R. and co.

    Just like Rook wideouts get punched out on the line of scrimmage and can't get off it well for the longest time, I think you need to bring QBs along some.

    Besides, Kellen may have a little something to say about the subject.

    It was a good draft, but we haven't won the Super Bowl just yet.
     
  16. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    We are talking about somebody who hasn't signed a contract...no way does he take a snap before that happens. The Jets wouldn't ask him to and his agent wouldn't allow him to.
     
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    There is always a choice!
     
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    NDmick Revis Christ

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    ^ there's a choice to ban you for being a pain in the ass.
     

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