You always like to walk down memory lane and say "I remember last year when...... I remember two years ago when....." This seems to be a prediction poll, not a relive recent history poll. How much $$$ do the BILLS have in cap space? It isn't as much as you think. Rather than regurgitate what some other uninformed person may have told you about the BILLS, there's this thing called "GOOGLE". It's great. You can check out and search for actual facts yourself, instead of the spoon-fed misinformation you seem to provide. They have roughly the same as the DOLPHINS and the JETS, so why aren't the DOLPHINS and JETS grabbing your ire and improving their rosters? Why is Ralph Wilson the miser and Ross and Johnson the wonderful business minds? Your hatred of the BILLS can only stem from the fact that the BILLS have abused the DOLPHINS in the playoffs. Either that, or Buffalo wings are too spicy for you.... Oh by the way, when was the last time the DOLPHINS were in the big dance?
Lats I checked, the Bills are about 23 mil under the projected cap, the Dolphins are about 11.5 under. Both teams still have to sign their rookies. now I don't klnow what school you went to, but where I went to school 11.5and 23 aren't close. But whatever, you are the epitome of a Bill fan, you start posts beging for respect and attention for your team and when people don't blow air up your skirt you get all whiny and cranky. If you can't take the disrespect, root for a winner, otherwise stop pissing and maoning. No one cares about the Bills, get over it. As for the SB thing, Bill fans are the last people on the planet that need to be tossing that subject around, loser, loser, loser, loser. Back to back to back to back. Enjoy those SB highlights do ya? Tell me how many times do you sit down and enjoy a Bills SB replay? I enjoy them immensly.
Check it out mouth.... http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/16/cap-space-as-of-may-15-2009/ $12.8 million for Buffalo. $14.1 million for the JETS. $11.8 million for MIAMI. I asked a simple question and started a poll about this year. You seem to live on what has happened in the past. Guess what, in the not so distant past, your squad was 1-15. One year of 11-5 and getting hammered in the playoffs hardly qualifies you to run your mouth like a PATS fan (then again you are a DOLPHIN fan, I should have known better). Talk your trash. When at the end of the year, the pussycat offense is turned inside out and the DOLPHINS end up in last with a roster full of non-pro style players on it, you'll maybe crawl back under your rock. Either way for me, I'm happy, the BILLS either make the playoffs, or they suck again, and DJ is gone. Ain't no bitchin here. I am very proud of the Super Bowl years. Nothing wrong with getting there. I guess that's why Marino never went back, his feelings got hurt and he didn't like the way he felt after losing in 1984. Hey 25 years of losing (should I type that 25 times?) I understand why you have "feelthepain" as your screen name.
While your points about the Bills and Bills fans have merit let's keep it clean. Don't make Dolphins fans look classless. other organizations and their fans are quite good enough at doing that.
Being that the Pats are the clear cut favorites to win the division, they clearly have the most to lose. However, I think the Bills actually have a lot to lose too. I think Dick Jauron is in a "win or bust" season. Bringing in TO will either pay out big or will bust. The whole team, and the way it is structured, is in a win or bust situation. I think they have a lot to lose.
While I think it entirely possible there are scenarios for the Jets to have a miserable season this year, I don't think many EXPECT them to make the playoffs, so it's hard to vote for them in this particular poll. I also understand the arguments presented about the Bills, but do people really expect them to make the playoffs? I don't. That leaves the Pats and fish, and while I understand the arguments in favor of NE on this poll, there is an argument for the fish: Parcells and Sporano are seen as having provided a solid FO and CS that the fish have really not had anywhere near in place since Shula left. That's a long time, and the notion among fish fans is that they are now out of the wilderness. But... The move to Pennington paid off in the short run, but it actually leaves their Qb situation very unclera in the medium to long run. At some point he will follow up his woeful performance against the Ravens, and remind fish fans why they used to diss Chad when he was the Jets Qb. Meanwhile who will replace him? We know less about Henne than we do about Clemens, and that's saying something. If 08 turns out to be a mirage on finding a solid Qb to finally begin to fill Marino's absence, the fish could fold badly, along with the perceived progress Parcells has brought. His house is imo quite shakey. Their failure to make the playoffs aloing with a losing season could be what it takes to be the best answer to this poll.
Good point. They are only one season removed from the worst record in the NFL. Which is it at this point, playoff team or top 5 draft pick? This season should tell us alot about the DOLPHINS for the near term future. I just don't see the shake up in MIAMI as I do in BUFFALO for a non-playoff effort. I still think two years of no playoffs makes the PATRIOTS alot more mortal. Think of it, is any quaking in their boots about DALLAS? The JETS should have alot of people forgiving them with a new HC, QB,etc.
Everyone has something to lose. Doing away with any homerism on my part, I'd say the Jets have less to lose. Rookie QB, rookie coach, new defensive system. However, this would make it...what? 42 years without a Super Bowl appearance? Ouch. I'm torn with the Bills, Dolphins and Patriots. Bills have A LOT to lose. You're talking starting QB, coach, FO, and maybe even the entire team if they come up with another 7-9 season or fail to make the Playoffs. Miami was the Division champion last year at 11-5 and should build on that. However, I think for the most part, everyone is expecting them to fall back down to earth next season. I expect Chad to get injured...again...and leave it in the hands of Henne or rookie Pat White. Who knows what will happen then. Patriots. This one is tricky. I know Beli and Tom are untouchable up there. However, if Brady doesn't return to form and lead the team into the Playoffs, maybe the fans will start second-guessing the Cassel trade? Brady is into his 30's already. Securing Cassel could've given them another solid QB for 10 years. But I guess that will be the team's future problem when Beli makes his exit around the same time TFB does. Still, this year, the Patriots need so show they're the beast of the East. If that doesn't happen, the TFB/Beli era could be nearing it's end. Lot to lose. I guess I'm going with Buffalo. Mainly because if everything unravels badly, they'll be looking to completely re-build...further North...and start all over again from scratch.
Fair enough, but don't you have to have soemthing first, before you can lose it? Lets think about what it is the Bills "could lose". A) A QB that's yet to have a winning season, much less playoff apperance or pro bowl. In 2 NFL seasons, has just as many INT's as TD's and he can't stay healthy for an entire NFL season. Add to that an Oline that's gotten worse this off season and I don't see him making it through his third NFL season healthy. B) A coach that has a simply awful winning pct. He has been with the Bills for three years and in a division where the the Dolphins and Jets combined for just five wins in 2007, DJ could't manage to win more than 7 games. As a HC he has just one winning season, that's just pathetic coaching. C) A FO that's just simply awful at drafting. Awful at adding FA's and awful when it comes to negotiating contracts with their players. Very little production comes from this group. They screwed up the Peters situation, they bring in a talented WR in TO, but for a team that needs structure and cohesivness, TO is about the last person on the planet that fits that definition. They have needs all over thier roster and they use their first pick to draft a guy that has little starting experience in college and is way too small to play the position from day one. The Bills were not in a position to pick for luxury. They need players that can step in from day one and dominate, I don't know how anyone who watches this sport at this level, believes Maybin will be a force from day one, I just don't see it. As if that weren't bad enough they refuse to address their T position, this after losing Peters, for IMO a song. Bill fans may think they got a deal for Peters, but you can bet your ass Peters won't have any problems at all defending McNabbs blind side. I'm saying it right now, Peters will be in the probowl next year and he will earn the spot, unlike last year. So there you have it, agree or disagree. I don't know how anyone can see the Bills in a position of losing something important. None of the above is worth much at this point. There is a history with every position above, enough history that you can look at it and say, "Well. they've had their chances" and nothing has come of it. Not even one winning season....8-8 being the minimal to qualify for a winning season. IMO, the Bills have nothing to lose. The only way the Bills have soemthing to lose, is if they win 12 games this year, half the team makes the pro bowl and they play in the AFC title game, after which everyone loses their job because RW loses what's left of his mind and they rebuild the entire team from the ground up. Other than that, I fail to see any logic in the thinking the Bills have soemthing to lose.
I think we're looking at it from different perspectives which would make your points valid. Depending on the seriousness of the looming relocation of the Bill to Toronto, I see them losing out that physical aspect. They'll be out an entire city they've called home for many years, and an entire fan base. The only thing that can save this FRANCHISE, is a playoff appearance. Something they haven't done in a while, so the chips are stacked against them. There's a lot riding on this season. If they completely fall apart...I think it'll be a lot easier to sell the team and start with a clean slate. That could mean pulling the trigger on moving the Bills further up north. We're lucky because we don't have to worry about this sort of stuff, but if I was a Bills fan, I would be looking for them to make the playoffs, not only because of the drought in recent years, but in hopes that the newfound success will keep my team where it is.
simple question, heres the simple answer. The Patriots, theyve always been the team to beat. and still are unless BB or Tom Brady dies. first off, if St.Brady doesnt return to form, pats fans will hit the panic button and shit themselves. even without their best player they were still in contention for the division crown. that says it all. now heres another reason, expectations. everyone knows brady wont be running around like nothing happened. but the expectations WILL be there. the media, analysts, their own locker room. also, after this year i believe seymour and wilfork need new contracts. so wave goodbye to a defensive anchor unless they decide to cut a ton of other players to keep both. so yes, the patriots have gained the most out of all of us in the last decade, and winning it is expected of them. point in case PATRIOTS
The Dolphins went 9-7 in 2005 and 6-10 in 2006. 2007 the year they went 1-15 they lost 6 games by 3 points or less. They had the talent to win more games. They easily could have gone 7-9 that year. 2007 was an aberration because Cam Cameron is that bad of a coach. You guys had Mangini, you know how a bad coach can wreck a good franchise. The Dolphins have had 2 offseasons to get away from Cam Cameron's mistakes. If the o-line can keep Pennington safe then they have a good chance make the playoffs. Buffalo is stuck. They have talented players but they are stuck with Dick Jauron. That will doom them I think. Patriots are still a strong team but their time at the top I think is ending. They haven't won a superbowl since 2005 and age and injuries are going to creep up on them. Jets have a new QB and a new HC. They could go either way. I think the Jets suffer from growing pains this year. Matt Sanchez has a big load to carry on his shoulders. I think the team that has the most to lose by missing the playoffs is the Patriots. They've all but been anointed as superbowl contenders. The Bills haven't made the playoffs in years. The Jets are rebuilding. The Dolphins are legitimate playoff contenders depending on injuries but if they miss the playoffs they won't self destruct. If the Patriots miss the playoffs with Tom Brady back they'll go crazy.
Not to beat up on the fish too much on this thread, as if there could be such a thing, but this post ignores several considerations. First of all the fish surprised some teams last year, running the wildcat, having a schedule coming off a 1-15 season. Chad concededly had a good, injury free year. But they are coming off a deflating playoff loss that revealed substantial weaknesses. Chad in nine seasons has only had one other where he started all 16 games. They will surprise nobody this year. Most of all their Qb succession is up in the air, very uncertain. I would agree, however, that play of their OL is key. I do think, however, that the above quotes leave out some things that will likely hold the fish back.
Not to side with the Dolphins, because I hate them, but you really can say the same thing about most offensive gameplans that are successful. They are all just schemes designed to take the opposing defense by surprise. I think the fact that the Phins went with a mainly college-style of set shows a lot of creativity on the coaching level, to design plays around the existing personnel... this is what we are hoping for on defense from Ryan. I don't think of the Wildcat in the '08 Dolphins offensive schemes as a gimmick, I think of it as effective playcalling. You know it's effective when half the teams in the league are copying it 2 weeks later. I like their OL, but the Phins are in pretty much the same boat as we are at the QB position, a bunch of long-term question marks. I think that Chad may be playing for another team in 2010, and the Phins will be going with youth at the position... unless Parcells is still elbow-deep in the on-field decision making, in which case they could be dumping Chad for some other older veteran.
From a head Coaches stand point it is the Bills. From a fans, and the franchise stand point it is clearly the Fish. They were the division winners last year. lots of fans down here are talking Super bowl. Expectations are thru the roof. They have some other problems. I believe I read they have the 2nd toughest schedule in the NFL. Pennington is the QB. I like Chad, but you never know if he is going to finish a season. The other Chad is a major ? The biggest problem of all is their "savior", The Tuna. If the Fish finish 4-12, and that is a possibility, odds are fairly high he will become frustrated, and retire again. Fish will be back to Square 1. That's a lot to lose.
I voted Pats, definitely. Expectations are always high with this team and with Brady back, Pats fans probably think it's a foregone conclusion. Oh, how I would love to see the Jets beat them twice this year and knock them out of contention altogether.
It's the Bills... They Uncharacteristically went for it by signing TO... Once they flop again, The Bills will go back into their shell, blow up the whole thing and start over or move to Toronto. The Jets IMO - took a lot of the good things Mangini put in place here and are taking it to the next level - But, with a new staff and QB, they have little expectations out in the NFL world for this year...
I understand why its hard to say the bills you have to have something in order to loose something. If they go 7-9 AGAIN it will be par for the course for them. If that happens and they ffire the coaching staff thats a good thing for them.
