The sky is not falling...

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by klecko73, Oct 19, 2009.

  1. klecko73

    klecko73 Guest

    Like everyone else, I am obviously dissappointed with yesterday's result.
    However, just like everyone was going way overboard after starting 3-0, the people jumping off the roof after the last 3 games are just as bad.

    #1: Right off the bat, once the Jets made a decision to go with Sanchez to start the season, that means barring any injury, the kid has to play the entire year. No benching, no mercy pulls at halftime, no excuses. Sanchez is a rookie and is playing like every other rookie has played - he is up and down, sometimes in the some game, sometimes in the same quarter, heck even sometimes on the same play. So the bottomline is that anyone calling for Sanchez to be benched is out of their mind right now. The best thing for him is that the expectation level has now returned to a reasonable level and we can all get back to our regularly scheduled 6-10 ~ 8-8 season with a rookie HC and rookie QB.

    #2: As for yesterday's performance, Sanchez was horrible. Ok so what? We have all seen it before from a Jets QB, so why is this any different? Is it because he lost the game? Gee VT, Penny and Favre threw plenty of pick 6s to end a game when they were here and they have years of experience to rely upon. Sanchez just now finished game 6 of what will hopefully be a long and successful career. Cut him slack already!

    #3: Enough with the Sanchez is a bust, he can't throw in the wind, he made bad reads, etc, talk!!! He can make all the throws he just didn't do it yesterday. He now knows what he needs to do next time when confronted with a similar situation and that experience will help. Will there be balls he can't throw in NJ when the weather is bad? Sure but NOW he knows what he can and can't do - something which every QB needs to face.

    #4: Sanchez was not a victim of bad play calling, etc. The Jets ran the ball 40 times. At some point in time you have to be able to throw the ball to win an NFL game. Sanchez's decision making process was what you would expect from a rookie - not good. He missed a lot of open check-downs and I am sure that the absence of JCotch and even Brad Smith hurt. Basically he was playing with a WR acquired 10 days ago in Edwards and Clowney who is simply a one trick poney. Keller didn't help by basically having his worst day as a pro.

    #5: Enough with the defense bashing. They held the Bills, despite 6 turnovers and ALMOST 5 Qtrs of football, to 16 pts and 300 yards of offense. What more did you expect them to do? They are giving up 17 pts a game - almost 5 pts less then they were last year. Yes the sack #s and turnovers haven't been there, but you have to remember we are playing a different defensive scheme and it is clear that not everyone is on the same page yet.

    #6: Injuries are going to impact play. With Jenkins out for the year, that will hurt the run defense. With Shepphard and Strickland out on D for the last 3 weeks that has hurt what the Jets could do with there blitzes. With the WRs in a state of flux, that hasn't helped Sanchez's development through recent adversity. Once that settles down, I think you will see his play improve.

    #7: IF the Jets get to 4-4 at the bye they have a realistic shot at the playoffs. Will they do that? I am not sure - BUT if they don't it isn't the end of the world. This team's performance - and most importantly Sanchez's performance - after week 9 is what we need to watch. I think you will find Sanchez will settle down and relax and his play become a bit more consistent.
     
  2. theBidet

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    excellent post. thank you.
     
  3. GBA

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    The Bills killed themselves with penalties and misfires by Fitzpatrick. That same offense with Edwards, who is better than Fitz, put up 3 points against the Browns. Our defense didn't lose the game, but they were not impressive.
     
  4. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    If the Jets get to 4 & 4 with a win in Oakland and a loss at home to the Dolphins they aren't going to the playoffs. 1 and 3 in the division with a 500 record at halftime isn't going to cut it. The Miami game is an absolute must win game.
     
  5. bigmehl

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    Well stated , I agree with all your points.
     
  6. The Dark Knight

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    I disagree. The playcalling was bad. Sure Keller played bad, but where were the quick slants or screens? Are you saying Sanchez had several check down options but by his own stupidity decided to bomb it each time for an INT? I thought we got rid of Favre. :)
     
  7. Jets n Boys

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    Defense played much better than just giving up 13 pts in 60 minutes. They had to deal with short fields through out the game. 6 interceptions are huge and to give up only 10 pts off 6 interceptions, its hard to say the defense wasn't impressive. In the NFL, a turnover gets you more pts per possession than when u receive the ball after a punk/kickoff.
     
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    ShAuN JoHN 9294 New Member

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    Simply put I think the next 2 games are must wins. A loss at Oakland will destroy our morale and like you said can't go 1-3 in the divison at the halfway point
     
  9. Jets n Boys

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    #8: Dustin Keller wasn't much of a help to Sanchez either. I saw about 4-5 catchable passes. He clearly dropped 2 or 3 of them and with an extra effort and/or awareness, could have had at least two more. I was surprised at his lack of hands yesterday.

    Hartsock killed us. We would have had a 1st down around the 20 if he doesn't hold on to the defender to gain extra 3-4 yards. That was a game killer penalty.
     
  10. bigmehl

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    Was at the game and in the other end-zone - Was the hold blatant ?? Or was it like a hold that can be called on every single play in the NFL. The reason I ask - is I doubt NE gets that call when driving for the tying FG especially at home.
     
  11. bigmehl

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    The Bills took away the underneath routes. Think back to how teams defensed Chad, because of the wind and our lack of reciever depth Buffalo was challengening us to beat them deep - we failed the challenge. When Sanchez did check down the Jets did drop a number of passes .
     
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    the back judge called it. it was basically stopping someone from being in sanchez' face. good call imo. well good in the sense that it should've been called. not good for jets fans.
     
  13. bigmehl

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    Good point with the Fin game. 1-3 in the division would make it a tough hill to climb.
     
  14. bigmehl

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    Thanks , saw the flag fly , but couldn't really tell who are where it was on.
     
  15. klecko73

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    I never said Sanchez was stupid, I said he made some bad decisions - because he is a rookie.
     
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    might be the best post i've ever read here (except any mike westoff love)
     
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    although looking at the schedule i believe we can go 10-6 and sneak into the playoffs, there is still a lot of talent, and i know im ganna get crucified for saying this but if we get jco and bsmith back healthy and continue to run the ball well, our offense has a chance to be special later on in the year when sanchez learns more and develops more chemistry with braylon..call me crazy but maybe by week 11 our offense will be the unit winning us some games.....maybe
     
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    Nice, we should just settle into a 6-10/8-8 season after starting 3-0. If thats the good news then I hate to break it to ya but the sky done fell on us.
     
  19. Jets n Boys

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    I have seen worse holds than that. Hartsock was doing a good job until Thomas reached him. When Bills defender tried to shed the block, Hartsock held his shoulder pads. It wasn't that bad IMO. Jenkins holds in the Miami game were much more blatant than this one. I'm not sure how the back judge saw that. It was a good 5 yards down the scrimmage line and the back judge was about 15 yards from the scrimmage with the OL in front of him. Maybe he got a good angle.
     
  20. Jets n Boys

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    You could be right actually. We are not generating a good pass rush, and just lost the centerpiece of our D, Jenkins. It used to be 11 against 10 (Jenkins demanded double, even triple coverage at times). It will now be 11 against 11 with our D.
     

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