2009 ALCS- Angels vs Yankees

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  1. EcKo151

    EcKo151 Active Member

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    Ok...

    Robertson gets the 1st 2 down...

    And you take out a righty to bring in a righty...

    Bravo Joe. Braaaaavo.
     
  2. EcKo151

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    You could always be a Islanders fan:sad:
     
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    Also from Twitter:
    This just in: Joe Girardi has changed bus drivers on the ride back to team hotel.
     
  4. Yisman

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    Jeff Mathis, Anaheim's backup catcher.

    As for the Robertson to Aceves move, it made no sense. Aside from the fact that Robertson is better, you're running low on pitchers. You don't pull Robertson after two batters.
     
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    I'm an Islander fan.:sad:
     
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    I wonder if he learned this from the UPS guy?
     
  7. EcKo151

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    well we better enjoy the Yanks because the Isles suck, the Jets are crashing, and the Knicks blow.
     
  8. Cappy

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    I was fully expecting Girardi to overmanage the Yanks right out of a game this postseason. I'm hoping this is the only one.

    Of course, I also really like his willingness to bring his best reliever into the game at the most crucial moments instead of following the standard managing wisdom, like not bringing your closer into a tie game on the road.
     
  9. Poeman

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    Im watching this Dodgers game and Joe Torre keeps Sherril to face Ryan Howard even though against Broxton, Ryan Howard is 0 for 10. Torre went with this gut and Sherril struck Howard in a huge spot.
     
  10. Cappy

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    I'll never forgive Torre for going with his gut and sticking with a gassed Gordon in '04, or for going with his gut and bringing Weaver into the extra inning game in the '03 WS, or for going with his gut and starting Kevin Brown in Game 7 over Vazquez, or for going with his gut and not bunting on Schilling in Game 6 of the same series.
     
  11. AlioTheFool

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    I was hoping against hope he wouldn't do it. But he did. If this is the only time, I'll forgive him in full. If it happens again, I want blood.

    I'm with you on the closer approach. It was the right thing to bring in Mo, though he pushed Pettitte and Hughes too far.

    I just don't understand the thinking behind putting in Gardner for Matsui. You've been playing marathon games all throughout the playoffs. You want a real bat in the lineup. Then you send him with the all-or-nothing Posada up? Had Gardner stayed where he was, we won yesterday.

    Then to yank Robertson for Aceves?! I just can't understand that at all. You pushed Pettitte an inning too far. You pushed Hughes an inning too far. So you cut off Robertson, who was dealing, when you only have two pitchers left in the pen? To bring in another righty? Who isn't as good?

    So frustrating. Now today is a big game on CC's shoulders. They can't allow the Angels to tie this thing up.

    Oh, and while I'm usually a Melky > Gardner fan, I think Gardner should start tonight in center. Cabrera is embarrassing himself at the plate.
     
  12. cassie96

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    That is one of the funniest pics I have ever seen....I bet Arod regrets that to the max. :eek:hmy:

    GO YANKEEEEEEEES!!!! Get it done!:up:
     
  13. GQMartin

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    Why, didn't Guzman PR for Matsui? Then Joe never would remove Mariano. I thought Guzman's purpose on this roster was to run...if not then you have Hinske and Hinske pinch hits over Cervelli. unreal.
     
  14. AlioTheFool

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    Guzman, as I have said repeatedly, should not be on the roster. That poor decision bit us yesterday.

    To begin with, rather than all of this pinch running BS, we're better served having more pitchers. Specifically Brian Bruney. If Bruney was with the team yesterday, Aceves never blows that game. Maybe Bruney does, but he was pitching very good at the end of the year, so there's a good chance he would carry that into October. (Not that Aceves hasn't been good, but the pitching situation could have been completely different.)

    Matsui should never have been pinch runned for anyway. He hasn't been making me happy at the plate, but any day of the week, no matter the slump, I'll take Matsui over any of: Gardner, Hairston, Cervelli, Guzman, Molina. You don't take your DH out of the lineup in a series like this.

    Girardi is getting it from every angle today. Everyone is talking about his micromanagement biting him in the ass. Good. Maybe he'll pay attention and knock it off.

    Tonight is far more a "must win" than it should be at this point.

    BTW: I agree with you about Hinske. If you're not going to carry the additional pitcher, carry the additional bat. There is zero offensive depth on the bench.
     
  15. GQMartin

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    It's my 27th b-day, the Yanks owe me a gift. They will win.
     
  16. AlioTheFool

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    I said it would be a 5 game series, and I'm still confident of that. The Yankees are more talented than the Angels. That's not to take away from LA, but the Yankees are loaded top-to-bottom at every position.

    Granted, the bottom of our order hasn't played like it lately, but still, the talent is there.

    Anyway, I'd give Melky the night off. First off, you let Melky have a night to think about his struggles. Second, you get Gardner's speed in at the bottom of the lineup. Third, you have an actual bat available on the bench to pinch hit, if the need presents itself.

    They need to jump all over Kazmir early. Show everyone that they're pissed off from yesterday and make a statement. Get CC a nice lead to work with, and let him go through the 7th. Then you go Joba to Mo, and try to give Hughes a rest.
     
  17. Cappy

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    Given Girardi's reasoning, this scenario would never have arisen. He yanked Robertson because what's his face was more of a fastball hitter and Aceves threw more offspeed stuff.

    If Bruney (a fastball guy) were an option, he either would have stuck with Robertson (a better fastball guy), or still gone to Aceves.
     
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    Give Hughes the game off? No way, not if it's a close game anyways. If he's your eighth inning guy, he pitches the eighth every time. Hopefully we do jump on Kazmir early, close games with the Angels are not to our advantage.
     
  19. Cappy

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    And I doubt they start Gardner vs. a lefty.
     
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    I've wanted Sweet Lou for quite a while.
     

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