This is what I meant to post in my prior thread - sorry for the double post, but I hit some button before I could get it all typed and it posted before I was done. I know the tendency is to blame the QB when an offense only puts up 7 points or when the QB has 20 interceptions, but to me the blame falls squarely on the OC and CS for the way they have completely mishandled Sanchez. The bottome line is that they do not put the kid in a position where it is easy for him to succeed. In fact, they constantly put him in difficult situations. On a cold, windy day they had Sanchez throw 32 passes, but that doesn't tell half the story. Let's look closer at the play calling today. The Jets rarely let Sanchez throw on 1st down, which is the easiest down to pass, especially with a strong running team. The Jets had 26 1st down plays today. They ran the ball 19 times on 1st down! Of those 19 runs, 12 gained 3 yards or less and 4 others gained 4 yards. That comes to 16 first down rushes for 35 yards. The Jets did gain 7, 11 and 13 yards on the other first down runs. Can this team be any more predictable. When Sanchez was given the opportunity to throw on 1st down, he was 5 of 8 for 104 yards with 1 TD and 1 Int (and one incompletion came on a spike to stop the clock at the end of the half) Why not let the kid throw more on first down? What this also means is that the Jets put Sanchez in difficult passing downs all game. He had 11 other incomplete passes in the game They came on : 2nd and 11 2nd and 6 2nd and 9 2nd and 10 2nd and 8 3rd and 4 3rd and 7 3rd and 10 3rd and 8 Two of his passes 3rd down passes were intercepted. They came on 3rd and 11 and 3rd and 13. Sanchez average incompletion on 2nd and 3rd down came with 9 yard to go. Now let's look at his 2nd and 3rd down completions. 2nd and 12 - complete for 10 yards 2nd and 2 - complete for 4 yards and a 1st down 2nd and 12 - complete for 17 yards and a 1st down 2nd and 8 - complete for 7 yards 2nd and 6 - complete for 10 yards and a 1st down 2nd and 7 - complete for 8 yards and 1st down 3rd and 15 - complete for 18 yards and 1st down 3rd and 6 - complete for 8 yards and a 1st down 3rd and 9 - complete for 8 yards (Sanchez ran for a 1st down on 4th and 1) 3rd and 11 - complete for 19 yards and a 1st down 3rd and 7 - complete for 13 yards and 1st down 3rd and 8 - complete for 1 yard On 2nd down, Sanchez was 7 of 12 for 55 yards and 4 first downs. Of those 12 passes, only one was attempted with less than 6 yards to go and the average play was 2nd and 8. On 3rd down, Sanchez was 6 of 12 for 67 yards 4 first downs and 2 interceptions. Of those 12 passes, only one was attempted with less than 5 yards to go and the average play was 3rd and 9. Adding them together, Sanchez was 13 of 24 for 124 yards and 2nd and 3rd down for 8 first downs and two picks. The average yards to go was 8.5 yards. Plus, Sanchez was sacked twice - on 2nd and 11 and 2nd and 10. When you look at this play calling, it is absurd to expect a rookie QB to succeed in the NFL when he is constantly being asked to throw on 2nd and 3rd and long. This play calling pattern is not only incredibly predictable, but it puts extreme pressure on Sanchez.
You can edit your posts. I agree though, I'd like to see more 1st down passes so we can pass less on 2nd and 3rd down. Our Edwards TD was on a 1st down I believe.
I wish we used more of the Brad Smith wildcat shit, it was pretty effective and a good way to gain some yards when the traditional run offense has stalled
This playcalling almost seems like the Hackett days. Everytime it was 2nd and long, it was a guaranteed run with that tool......
You could say we had no business winning this game or that we had no business losing the game...either way makes sense.
I don't have a huge problem with the OC playcalling today as I have had on other days. You do have to question Rex not going for it on 4th and goal from the 1 however...
Still...go for it. you are at home. if you miss u have the no. 1 d in the nfl i know its hindsight, but i would have expected more discussion on that decision.
I was thinking about making a post or thread about how our offense hasn't been the same without Leon. Even tho he wasn't lighting the world on fire (didn't score a TD before his injury), he was a reliable check down receiver and a threat to house it every time he had the ball in his hands. Woodhead has been doing a lil of what Leon usually does in terms of being a check down receiver but it's not the same.
I wouldn't have been upset at the decision, and you're right, if we didn't get it we would have pinned them deep in their own territory. Still, I would have taken the sure points (of course we didn't get them today...)
go check the stats. Leon wasnt doing a damn thing this year. Nothing. We miss him on kick returns, thats it.
Great write-up! For some reason, I also focused on second down plays today. Here's some more predictability: The Jets ran 22 second down plays today. They ran 15 passes vs only 7 runs! 14 of the 15 passes came on 2nd and 6+ (the other on 2nd and 3), and the 7 runs came on 2nd and 3, 6, 7 (twice), 10, and 11 (twice). A couple things I took away: 1. 2nd and short didn't happen much. Not a great job running today. HOWEVER... 2. 2nd and medium-to-long doesn't always have to mean pass! I've been arguing with a friend who thinks a big part of Sanchez's struggles is we're always in bad 2nd down situations. I say why make him pass in those situations? Run on 2nd to make a more manageable third down. While some people see these numbers and say that Sanchez should pass more on first down, I say run on first down, then run it again on second, down and distance be damned. ESPECIALLY on a day like today with the elements working against us and the D playing so well.
Agree, I might have a thread on a similar in the future. The one thing that Schotty has not been able to is to develop talent. I can't think of one guy on the team who Schotty has really developed into a a great guy. Obviously talent is part of it, but Schotty has been surrounded with alot of good talent, some developed and some not, but I haven't really seen him develop a good player. example Clowney, raw talent but workable, I dont get how Schotty could not refine his skill, yeah I know he has receiver coaches but still Schotty is responsible for the entire offense so it falls on his shoulders
How can anyone not question the play calling when a rookie QB is constantly being asked to throw on 2nd and 3rd and long???? Is there any wonder his completion percentage is so low and his interceptions so high when he is only passing on obvious passing downs. I would bet that his stats are no different from most QBs when facing second and 3rd and long.
they aren't even high percentage throws. Its a lot of shit that doesn't put him in a good situation... but when he throws a slant route - boom! 12+ yards everytime. It was the one pass he hit and looked great when this team was 3-0 and he was heralded by everyone.
Jets fans should all get together and hold a rally in downtown Manhattan to make a statement and let ownership know we're tired of this guy. It's time we made an in your face statement- imagine how the local sports writers and talk radio would react to thousands of angry Jet fans calling for changes to be made. It would be very bad press for Woody. A sign saying whatever you want - fire shotty, no psl's, Revis 4 President, and just your lungs. That would be a fun way to blow some of this steam I think. Rex wants us to be loud :breakdance: I'd be up for that. I don't know if there would be enough interest, though.
the media does a fine job of it. Mangini would have gotten another year if he was in a smaller market... and now he's in a smaller market.
