If you want to compare Feely and Folk in their third seasons as professional kickers, then we can do that: Jay Feely was 19 of 27 and Nick Folk was 18 of 28 - pretty similar stats, huh?. Would you say that Jay Feely lost his confidence after his third season?
It's very rare that we have had a reliable K so when we get one we want to keep him. I don't think Folk is done for his career but Feely has been great for us and w/ a team that hasn't had many, if any, great K's it feels good not having confidence in our K.
What's so reliable about him? Feely is an average kicker, and that can be replaced. I know that a few of his misses can be blamed on the long snapper and the holder, but he was still 30-36...that's below average in this league. ...and if you count the playoffs, he was 33 of 41. BARELY 80% isn't what I'd call "reliable" If you look at Feely's percentage compared to the other kickers in this league, he's the 18th best kicker in the league - so he's actually in the bottom half. (...not by much at all, but still) I'm not against bringing Jay Feely back, I just don't understand the all of the love this guy's getting.
Look at the season Feely is associated with, the administration. That is where all of the love is coming from. Nugent and Feely had similar numbers on the Jets but Nugent was a bad decision by a terrible GM on some terrible teams while Feely helped a team that almost made the playoffs last year and the AFCC this year, and a signing of one of the better GMs in the past 20 years. He missed two in the AFCC and can take the blame for at least one bad kick in the Falcons game, a game that was assumed a must-win to make the playoffs. He has two high pressure games where he came up short(or wide).
I don't want to compare Jay Feely with Nick Folk in their respective 3rd seasons. I want to compare Jay Feely with Nick Folk in their most recent season.
All I was saying is you can't give up on a kicker after he has a down season. Neil Rackers has had some pretty bad seasons as a pro. So you want to compare Feely with Folk in 2009...Folk went from being a Pro-Bowler to below average, and Feely remained a journeyman kicker...he's consistently mediocre. Folk's got more way more upside.
Why do players at other positions get to have bad years and kickers always seem to get the shaft? All I see when I look at Folk's stats is that he's been good (if not great) 2 out of 3 years. Plus he has a pro bowl.
he was near automatic, he's the best K we have ever had. You are right that most of his misses were due to bad holds/snaps. That Atlanta game was not on him. It's not easy to find a reliable K and we have one. That doesn't mean Folk can't regain his form but we have a good one and I don't care what the rankings say. He missed one big kick all year and that was a 1st qtr kick in the title game. He didn't cost us a single game all year and that is big. Look at his misses, he missed one in the blowouts over Oak and TB, he missed one in the comfortable win over Car. The only misses in close agmes were early against Buf(but when the QB throws 5 INTs it's hard to blame the K) and the one against Atl- the other 2 were not his fault that game. You can look at %s all you want but the guy consistently made big kicks for us all year. yeah he ahd the chip shot miss against Indy but that didn't cost us the game.
One of his misses against Atlanta was completely on him. The Carolina win was anything but comfortable. We were up by 8 for most of the second half...thanks to a ridiculously miraculous defensive TD by Revis. Feely went 2 for 3 in a 16-13 loss at home to Buffalo. Feely missed one big kick all year? When it's your job to make field goals, every kick is a big kick. I never said Jay Feely cost us any game, but he kept us from winning some game. 3 of 5 in the playoffs in not reliable. You can't miss field goals against Peyton Manning. Feely had a lot to do with the loss against the Colts. You do realize that the Colts took the lead after Feely missed his second field goal, right? If he was "clutch" or "reliable" and actually made the long attempt, the score would be 20-13 Jets...however, he missed and the scored remained 17-13 Jets. Manning had amazing field position, and easily drove down the field and scored - 20-17 Colts. Here's a fun little stat for you: Doug Brien was 51 for 61 (84%) during the regular season as Jet. Jay Feely is 54 of 64 (84%) during the regular season as a Jet. 84%... As a kicker, it doesn't matter what you do all season long if you can't make kicks in the playoffs.
That missed kick against Buffalo wound up being huge. He can't get all the blame for that game, but he deserves some.
Mike Nugent for the win! OK, I'll own this as an aside because it needs to be done. I thought the pick for Nugent was ballsy at the time. Sundayjack was all over that pick, as well as others. I lost horribly, and I concede three times over.
Feely actually had plenty of distance on both attempts. He just flat out shanked them. I was confident in him all season, and those awful misses shocked me. You measure a true champion by what he/she does under pressure in big spots. All the great ones--from Stenerud to Vinatieri--make those kicks, unless they were wearing a Jet uniform, of course. Feely could have been huge for us in those key spots, but came up really small. Will you trust him in a big spot again? I don't know.
If that's the case, why would u want to bring someone in who missed his last 11 of 16 (as someone mentioned on this thread)? It just doesn't make any sense. Everyone is hanging on to the fact that Nick Folk has a Pro-Bowl under his belt. Fair enough. Looking back in '07 tho, there are at least a handful of FG kickers that should've or could've made the cut even before Folk. Just some names to throw out there who finished that season with a better % in 27+ attempts (Folk finished with 31atts): Morten Andersen (ATL): 25/28, 89% Lng: 47 Robbie Gould (CHI): 31/36, 86% Lng: 49 John Kasay (CAR): 24/28, 86% Lng: 53 Lawrence Tynes (NYG): 23/27, 85% Lng: 48 Matt Bryant (TB): 28/33, 85% Lng: 49 Nick Folk (DAL): 26/31, 84% Lng: 53 Jason Hanson (DET): 29/35 83% Lng: 53 Shaun Suisham (WAS): 29/35 83% Lng: 50 Josh Brown (SEA): 28/34 82% Lng: 54 I listed all of these in case you wanted to go with %, atts made, or just atts in general. Clearly, there were better options out there to send to the Pro-Bowl that year. Unless he wasn't the 1st candidate. Aside from that, Nick Folk has had 1 great year in 2008 where he had a 90.9% rating where he went 20/22, but Feely had a similar year in 2007 where he went 21/23 with a 91.3% with a long of 53. I don't believe that stats are supposed to tell you (fully) how to gauge someone's performance, but in this case, I have felt that Feely was nothing short of automatic for the majority of this season. And I liked that. I liked it so much, I want to have it back. If Feely is the epitome of mediocrity, I'll take that any day than Nick Folk who's lately been the epitome of an unknown. By the way, I just noticed this. Folk's Pro-Bowl year he went 26/31 84% Long: 53. In 2009, Feely's (mediocre year) he went 30/36 83.3% Long: 55. Going by Nick Folk's standards, technically, Feely was good enough to make A Pro-Bowl as well.
1 miss on him and 2 on others. That ridiculous INT for TD came early in the game, that game was never in doubt. Don't forget we also fumbled at the Car 1 or else the score wouldn't have been as close as it was. Feely didn't keep us from winning any games, the Atl game was not on him. He had 1 makeable miss in the playoffs. His kick in SD was a HUGE kick, if he misses there I don't think we go on to win that game- that is how big that kick was. You can't score FGs against manning when he is playing the way he did. We settled for FGs instead of attacking. If he hits that one makeable FG we get 3 more pts, we lost by 13. You can throw all the stats at us yiou want but those stats don't take into account game situations and last I checked Jay didn't miss 2 makeable FGs w/ a chance to win a postseason game.
It was all Gholstons fault. He sat way to close to Feeley on the bench, thus penetrating Feeley's confidnce zone. Damn Ghoston
And just how much more reliable is Nick Folk in the Playoffs? People wanna talk about Feely's misses, but Folk's only had 1 kick that went for 34yds in a semi-closed stadium during a Divisonal game. Hasn't been back to that type of atmosphere since '07.
