Feely Responds to Folk Signing

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  1. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

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    2 misses on him that could have cost us games - Buffalo and Atlanta

    I didn't forget we fumbled on the one yard line. That game was never out of reach for the Carolina Panthers. Anything can happen in this game...

    Feely kept us from tying Buffalo and Atlanta. Our offense put him in the position to make field goals, and he didn't make them.

    If you're a professional kicker, you should be able to make a 50 plus yard kick indoors.

    Do you understand what you're trying to say?

    You're trying to tell me that a kick that made the score 7-3 is more important than a kick that would've given the Jets a TD lead? That makes no sense.

    Feely's 52 yard miss gave the Colts momentum. Manning had a short field to work with and he drove them down the field for the go ahead score. Had Feely made that kick, and Manning scored on their next possession the score would look like this: 20-20. That's a tie, if you didn't know.

    We settled for field goals because it was fourth down. I suppose you're going to blame Sanchez and Schottenheimer for Feely's miss now, huh?

    You can't give the best quarterback in the game good field position. That's what happened when Feely missed that 52 yarder.

    I gave you their REGULAR season stats, and they were basically identical. Everyone jumped on Doug Brien when he missed in the playoffs (...so did I). I know that Feely didn't have a chance to win the game, but he had a chance to give the Jets a TD lead in the second half. He failed to do that.
     
  2. Mr Electric

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    I never said I wanted the Jets to bring in Nick Folk...I just understand why it was done.
     
  3. Jets n Boys

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    ^Thing is, we aren't upgrading our kicker with Folk, unless Folk gains his 07-08 form back. Feely was decent. He was pretty reliable, or should I say he still is. I think we gonna go into training camp with both Feely and Folk and see who comes through, unless of course we sign Feely to a decent multi yr deal. If Feely reaches FA, theres a good chance teams like Redskins or Cowboys scoop him.

    Feely was ok in 07, especially in the beginnin when he was considered a MAG kicker (Miss A Game). I like Feely and really hope he comes back, but if Folk regains his form, good bye Feely. Football can be really harsh for kickers.
     
  4. Jets n Boys

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    The extra million we might end up with for Feely can be used wisely aswell, not that there won't be cuts either. Besides the top 4 teams, every team has a chance to sign atleast one solid player, so I can see a few salary dumps by other teams that we may be able to bring in.
     
  5. nyjunc

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    Against Buf Sanchez threw 5 INts and in total we threw 6 INTs, that's not on the kicker.

    he missed against Atl but he 2 other chip shots that he had no cotnrol over. if he kicks those we win.

    That carolina game was never in doubt.

    Feely didn't keep us from tying Buf. We were up 13-3 when he missed.



    A 50 yd kick anywhere is a very difficult kick.


    That kick against SD was MUCH bigger and much more pressure filled than against Indy. Agaianst Indy it was early in the game and we had all game to overcome it. Against SD we went scoreless in the first half and we were down 7-0, if we come away w/ no pts and put SD in good FP that game is likely over. The momentum swing would have been huge.


    52 yds is a long FG, it was a big msis but you can't get on a K for missing a kick that long. It was foolish to attempt it.



    We settled for FGs b/c we played too conservative- especially after we got the fumble up 14-6. if we put 6 on the board there it's a different ball game.



    Stats don't show the situations, if you think Doug Brien is as good as Jay feely then I can't help you.

    You are comparing Feely missing one makeable FG early in the 1st qtr of a game to missing TWO makeable FGs in the final mins that would have won us the game?
     
  6. Mr Electric

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    Did I say it was on the kicker? No. I knew you'd blame Sanchez.

    Sanchez moved the offense down the field enough times to win the game, and Feely missed. If he makes the field goal, the game is more than likely over. I don't care what the score was at the time.

    You do realize that out of the three misses, only two counted against him. He only attempted two kicks in that game. One was blocked, which after watching the replay again, can be blamed on the offensive line. ...and the other was just a flat out, horrible miss. Kellen Clemens mishandled the snap on another attempt, and Feely can't be blamed for that.

    Dude, we lost to the god damn Buffalo Bills...almost every game was in doubt.

    We came out with the win, and it was a big one, but you can't leave points on the field.

    What was the final score again? Oh yeah...a 16-13 loss in OT. The Jets wouldn't be in OT if Feely makes that kick. 13-10...game over.

    How? Against Indy, he was on a bigger stage and indoors.
     
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    And this is really what it comes down to. If Feely is looking for Janikowski (sp) monies then I totally understand why they're letting him walk. I fucking hate Al Davis.
     
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    And if we trade for Asomugha?
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    No one defended Sanchez more than me this year but when a QB throws 5 INTs in a game it's hard not to blame him.

    He missed one FG, we had 6 INTs in the game- how is it on the kicker?

    We all know he only gets blame for one of the 3 FGAs against Atl.

    We were up by double digits most of the game, the Car game was NEVER in doubt.

    We have no idea how the game plays out of he makes that kick against Buf, regardless of that when you throw 6 INTs it's hard to win.


    The pressure of the SD kick was greater b/c of the game situation. Missing a kick early in the 1st qtr would have been very different than missing that kick after a good drive to open the 2nd half at SD when we had zero points through 2+ qtrs.


    He's not looking for Janikowski money, he wants a raise and he deserves one but he doesn't deserve janikowski money and isn't asking for it.
     
  10. rmagedon

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    I would still hate him because Revis is gonna have to get paid and the benchmark has been set by the ridiculous contract they offered Aso last year.
     
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    That's what I thought too and I agree with u. He should get it that raise and be extended.
     
  12. CatoTheElder

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    There is no way that that contract can become the benchmark for anything aside from stupidity.
     
  13. rmagedon

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    To an extent, I understand as well. I just don't see why they would want to mess with something that's been relatively good for this team. If he walks, we could very well be fucked for the season. I'm all for giving him an extra mil or 2 to have that kinda security back on the team again.
     
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    Hopefully Revis' agent agrees.
     
  15. CatoTheElder

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    If Revis gets $14.25million/year, I'm switching sports.
     
  16. rmagedon

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    Nate Clemens signed an 8-year 80M deal in 2007. Most recent contract to one of THE best CB's in the league (Aso) was for...3-years 45M?

    I'm assuming Revis is not taking anything less than 11-12M per year.
     
  17. Mr Electric

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    I highly doubt that...considering I was one of the only posters that spoke highly of him even before he was drafted by the Jets.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Check my post history, it's pretty easy to do. I was very happy w/ his rookie and that wa before postseason, he really grew up in postseason and i feel great about him going forward. That doesn't mean he didn;'t have typical rookie ups and downs which he did. he cost us 3 games- at NO, vs. Buf and at NE.
     
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    ^There's really no reason for the two of you to be battling on Sanchez. Junc has been firmly in support of him since draft day, and I definitely recall that Mr. E said before he's been a fan since Sanchez was a Diablo. You've both been among the most positive supporters of him. No need to snipe about who loves him more.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    He thinks I am blindly supporting Feely and blaming Sanchez which isn't the case.
     

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