Jets' alleged upgrade to L.T. a downgrade from productive Jones (CBS)

Tomilson is not replacing Thomas Jones. Shonne Greene is taking over Jones' role in the offense and Tomilson is a more versatile backup then Jones would be. None of the national media understands this.

 

Another writer that doesn't realize with our line and determination to run the ball down the opposing teams throat unlike San Diego LaDainian Tomlinson will have a much better year this year then his past couple seasons and def better then TJ in KC.

 

hahaha...the haters are out early this year.

Anybody who understands football....knows why LT is the better choice than TJ....the National media can fuck a duck.

 

Ugh. Clarke Judge writing out his ass again. Any article pertatining to LT and Thomas Jones must have the following points in order to maintain any credibility:

1. The Jets were not going to pay Thomas Jones $5.8 million to be a backup running back
2. Thomas Jones was slowing down late last year and did have some kind of knee injury.
3. LT is not replacing Jones' production. he is replacing Greene's.
4. Other than one un-sourced rumor, we do not know whether the jets had a chance to match the Chiefs offer.

Judge omitted all this and thus the article is representative of the rest of the cbssportsline.com web site... a piece of crap.

 

What a fukin dunce. It's pointless to even point out the blatant flaws in this article. They should have written it on bleacher report.

 

I thought Bleacher Report was a site with the top sport writers of our time.

 

I love how Thomas Jones is all of a sudden a star now that he's gone. Do these people actually watch TJ run? I could run behind the Jets offensive line!

TJ's game is nothing special. He's not a tough runner IMO...he goes down on 1st contact and even falls before taking a hit. He slips a lot when trying to make cuts. He's not explosive. He is a product of the holes our offensive line opens up.

Shonn Greene is a power back. He runs people over. He lowers his shoulders and lays the hit on the defender. He even has that surprising break away speed.

On NFL films they had Shaun Phillips mic'd up on defense for SD in the playoffs. Every time Greene came in he said '23 in the game, they gonna run it, 23 in the game, WRAP UP! WRAP UP!' Teams do not fear TJ, they fear Greene.

LT just needs to run through the holes and don't fumble. The one dimension LT gives us is pass catching out of the backfield which neither Tj or Greene give us.

 

San Diego would run the ball just because they felt they needed a running play. We run because that's what we do. How the hell is L.T. supposed to get into a rhythm playing the way San Diego does. He is coming from a pass first run second team to a run first/pass second. No one will understand. Let the haters hate and I'm sure Coach Ryan will have them eating their words.

 

One thing that jumps out at me from this article is the example given to "prove" L.T. is finished. The author mentions LT rushed for 24 yards against the Jets in the AFC Divisional game.

1.) SD doesn't have the best offensive line.
2.) THEY WERE PLAYING AGAINST THE #1 RANKED DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE
3.) They were playing from behind most of the game, meaning they were likely passing more (on a team this is already "throw-first")

Like you guys said, crappy article from a guy who obviously hasn't watched too many Jets games.

 

DZ, Did you watch the game? or maybe just don't remember but The JETS were actually the team playing from behind til the 4thQ.

We were down 7-0 and 7-3 in the 3rd til we scored the go ahead TD right after the start of the 4thQ.

The CHARGERS were NOT playng from behind most of the game.

 

Just the fact that Jones won't be starting over Greene anymore makes the rushing attack better. How many times did we watch Jones trip over the LoS last year? More than I can count. People were talking about him breaking down before we got Edwards. Also, post-Edwards Greene had far superior stats (about 2 more yards per carry) to Jones. A lot of TJ's yards also came out of WIDE OPEN holes created by the OL. Even if LT is worse than Jones, it's not a large enough difference or large enough impact to effect this team negatively.

 

It's lazy journalism. His entire assessment of LT and TJ seems to come from reading their stat lines. Not worth the effort of reading.

 

And, had Tomlinson been able to generate any offense on the ground, the Chargers probably could've put the game away.

There's no question that Jones is a better back than Tomlinson at this point in time. If the Jets expect LT to come in and get 20 touches a game like Jones did, then we have a problem. I think it's clear that Greene and Sanchez will be playing a larger role in the offense though, so I'm not concerned.

 

Correct me if Im wrong but didnt TJ only get like .1 ypc more then LT. If thats true with our superior O Line and how we ran the ball so much more giving TJ many more opportunities to get those huge runs that skew the average. I dont understand why anyone would really think this is a huge down grade if a down grade at all.

 

LT is finished as a starting back in the NFL. He's over the carry limit, he's over the age limit, and he's over the last two seasons sucked limit. Whether he can help the Jets in a limited role is unclear but if he has to carry a load next year then we're going to be dead in the water.

 

Greene is the one replacing TJ this is true. However i am not entirely sure what we will get out of LT, which is why it is essential we have a health Leon in the back field as well. Our RB's as a whole are better with Greene, Washington and LT splitting the caries, but it may be more injury prone.

 

LT and Leon will almost surely end up being change of pace backs with receiving ability, to complement the sledgehammer style of running that Greene does. We know what we have in Leon, I think what we'll get from LT is a diminished version of what he used to be, a finesse back with outstanding vision (far better than TJ's), who can take excellent advantage of the zone-blocking shifts that TJ was able to last season.

And with our O-line having a year of those zone shifts under their belt, those holes are probably going to be bigger than the ones TJ had going for him.

I have no illusions about LT. He has never been the same as far as evasiveness since he had that tendon separation in his groin. He's not going to be making a ton of highlight films for us. But he may run and catch for enough key third down conversions to justify his salary.

 

No kidding. Is it that difficult to understand?

I guess they think Shonn replaced Leon, just cause it worked out that way once his injury occurred. So that's it. Shonn will always be Leon's replacement.

Dullards.

 

at this point this debate should be put to rest and hopefully LT can keep the critics quiet with his onfield production.