Revis prepared to hold out

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  1. MBGreen

    MBGreen Banned

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    I have no doubt that Revis will get his payday from the Jets....it's just not gonna happen right away. I wish he and his agents would show a little patience.

    I understand the Leon situation isn't helping matters.....but unfortunate things happen in sports.....and Revis needs to realize this. Airing your grievances in the media is the wrong approach.
     
  2. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    It'll take care of itself
     
  3. milo

    milo Well-Known Member

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    Now I'm no math major but wouldn't that about come out to the $20 million a year rumor that he laughed at publicly before this whole thing started heading south?

    But that aside, Manish is right about how this sets up. Peyton's deal has to get done first. This sets the parameters for all the other dominos to fall.
    Honestly if he does get his deal worked out north of 20 per then the Jets are in the clear. If it's closer to 17-18 then Revis has no leg to stand on in demanding 16+, because I don't care how good you are you are not worth 90-95% of possibly the greatest player of all time at the game's most important position.

    Ironically we're going into this season the same way we ended the last...at the mercy of Manning.
     
  4. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Yes, even if he misses one day.
     
  5. MBGreen

    MBGreen Banned

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    Manning's contract should have NO bearing on Revis' contract....that's stupid.
     
  6. bojanglesman

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    No sense in pretending the guy isn't important. He's the most important player on the defense. He'd be sorely missed if he weren't playing. Period. That being said, it is getting old. I wish there were some moratorium on journalists discussing it until he's signed or actually holds out. I'm sure there will be an article everyday speculating what his thoughts are, when he took a dump, what color it was, etc. And I'll probably read it like a dumbass too.:smile:
     
  7. kinggofg

    kinggofg Active Member

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    Can someone explain how sitting out is in a players best interest during contact negotiations? Is this just his idiot agent.

    If you want to have a long term deal. You are just pissing off your team. Tanny and co aren't stupid, but I wouldn't want to make this into an adversarial negotiation. Tanny has shown he doesn't back down from a fight, is very shrewd and has most of the leverage.

    If you want to get traded. This stratgey doens't work because it signals to the rest of the league that you are a problem child who is only interested in money (thats what Fans think too.)

    In a situation like this, sitting out from training camp could hurt Revis' preparedness for the season. If he doesn't get a new contract the worse his performance the lower he will get paid in the future.

    Finally, He isn't really hurting the team that much, I mean his usage last season wasn't all that complex. He follows the top reciever. The rest of the team could just assume he's in. or in camp you could just have edwards sit out from camp too (since Revis would be covering him).
     
  8. milo

    milo Well-Known Member

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    Is it stupid? Absolutely.

    But it's still true.

    Let's say the Jets caved, and gave Revis $18 million a year. Manning then gets his deal done for $17.5 - he wants to be team friendly, etc.etc.

    You have now set a precedent for a DB to be the highest paid position in the NFL.
    This isn't about Woody not having the money, or the Jets being cheap, or anything really having to do with the money itself. I have no doubt Tanny has the ability to pay Revis whatever he wants and then some.
    This is about fucking up the entire marketplace.
    For years to come.
    Like this douche.

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  9. MBGreen

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    Tanny will probably sign Harris next.....because Harris is taking the D.Ferguson approach by not saying a peep to the media about his contract situation.
     
  10. MBGreen

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    If Revis is going to leverage against any other player contracts.....it should be other CBs....not QBs.

    using Manning's contract situation as a starting point makes absolutely no sense.
     
  11. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    Hmm, not really.
    Revis is now an elite player first and foremost, like Manning is.
    QB is regarded as the most important position on any team, so everyone else's position is affected by it.
    What then comes into play, is then how much other players in that position earn, so actually Manning's contract is relevant.
     
  12. Chrisp22

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    Either 12 or 15 mil is highly paid. It makes him one of the top paid corners. But as NFL contracts go, Tanny would be insane to guarantee too much cash.
     
  13. Chrisp22

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    Agreed. QB's > CB's in the grand scheme of a football team. As so the salary should go. Revis > Manning? Really? Anyone?
     
  14. themorey

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    So Aso is due $16M this season and the club has an option on him to either pay $16.9M or franchise him using the tag # for QBs, whichever # is greater. If the option is not exercised the team can not franchise him.

    Based on that, how likely is it that crazy Al will exercise that option? If he doesn't there is no way that Aso gets close to that amount again. That will reset the market for CBs and bring the demands of Revis back to earth (but takes away his case for $16.001M per year). That's why the Revis camp is pushing so hard NOW and is threatening to sit out. If they wait til next year to re-sign he loses that bargaining chip. The next highest CB gets like $10M per year, although Aso will prolly get $12M if I had to guess.
     
  15. milo

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    Agreed. But there in lies the problem, because what he is leveraging against is Aso, which rivals an elite QB contract.

    So if you are demanding higher than Aso you are demanding more money than an elite QB. So if Peyton's deal comes in at any less than $20 mil, Revis has to take less than he wants, because anything more will completely screw up the whole balance of who gets paid to do what.

    Tanny and the Jets FO refuse to acknowledge Aso's deal as the baseline. And IMO they are totally in the right to do so. If you ignore Aso's contract then you pay Revis $13 mil per then he's the highest paid db in the league.

    Ignore the names involved...do we really think a top CB is worth more than a top QB? Of course not.
     
  16. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    Bingo! And thats why Revis' agent is pushing so hard (and not doing him any favours either)
     
  17. Hemi

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    Does anyone really think Revis needs to spend that much time in camp anyway?

    Other than perhaps some new defensive wrinkles and learning his new teammates tendencies, he could miss the whole offseason and still start game 1 and play well.
     
  18. jilozzo

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    if this gets out of hand fugly, i mean real fugly, then drafting the corner this year was a genius move.....

    odds are he signs an extension but there has to be a ceiling that johnson and tanny won't climb above....

    jil
     
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  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    This will get done before the season, he may miss some TC which isn't a huge deal but it will get done.
     
  20. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    As a fan of the game, that's the last thing I want. The best young player at the position missing camp time due to contract dispute. I want Revis to be at the top of his game to continue his domination.
     

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