Sanchez’s Accuracy Issues Need Correction

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  1. NYJets4EverOnTop

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    But what about his deep ball accuracy Willie? :p
     
  2. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    hah. This was something I brought up in that thread - I think improving completion percentage is where he can make the biggest improvement. Those vertical passes are low percentage plays by definition.

    People draw a direct parallel from completion percentage to accuracy too often. They are related, but not the same.
     
  3. Section 227. Row 5

    Section 227. Row 5 Active Member

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    I agree with these two statements. There's a lot to ask of a 2nd-year QB who, let's face it, didn't really have that many big-game starts prior to his first year in the NFL. So this is truly only his 2nd year at QB and let's not forget how inexperienced he really is. Pennington and many others had the luxury of sauntering around for years with a clipboard under their arm before doing what Sanchez is doing at this age and level of maturity.

    He's mastering and having to take in a lot. His ball control has vastly improved generally with the exception of some recent throws that could have gotten him in a lot of trouble. But his game-management skills and poise are improving and his accuracy cna be expected to be off a little as he faces new looks in each and every defense he faces. Again, we shouldn't overlook the inexperience. I really think he's mastering the overall learning curve quite well. There will be moments, of course.

    But the bottom line is, 5-1 so far for a 2nd-year QB in this league is outstanding. He's finding ways to win these games and that's what's important. He'll slip and regress, but I think we've go the right man in this position (FINALLY!) and now we can fine-tune all the other areas. This team (and Mark Sanchez) is the real article.
     
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    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    That.

    Also, at some point they need to trade a couple long shots on 2nd and short for shorter positive gains.
     
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    Section 227. Row 5 Active Member

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    It's going to have to come with time. Everything else is falling in place. Some things are going to slip through the cracks as he faces different defenses every week. It all comes with experience. His improvement is something any good coach would look at and like.

    I don't expect a Superbowl win from our second-year QB. I've been saying all along that expectations are still way too high for us this year. If it comes, I'll be elated. But I don't "expect" it. One look at these boards will tell you I am probably in the minority around here. That's not being negative, just realistic.

    But now, I do think Sanchez can do it. I think he WILL improve his accuracy and I think improving his accuracy is not some monumental task for him. He's accurate... he just needs to do it more consistently. He has all the other components going for him, so doing this will come, I'm very sure of that. The question is when... when will it all come together? And there we are back to the expentancy levels again. None of us should have our hopes that high that we get crushed if he doesn't get us there this year. There are going to be disappointments.
     
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    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you're being too conservative.









    Heh.
     
  7. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    not really, DBs are essetially WRs who cant catch, theres a reason that they dont play offense

    sanchez has been very incosistant with his accuracy and as a result were towards the bottom of the league in YAC. even when hes hitting receivers, hes not hitting them in stride (outside of keller) ... but our receivers have had a ton of drops this season, most of which have been on 3rd down. that not only affects sanchezs completion percentage, but also his rhythm which compounds his accuracy issues
     
  8. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    While DB's typically don't have the best hands, I don't see how you can dispute that all QB's have dropped passes and INT's. It's part of the game. Are you suggesting that other QB's aren't seeing dropped passes?
     
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    Just manage the game and don't turn the ball over is what he is being asked to do. I have no complaints with his progress so far. I have seen him make some really nice throws, and a few "Oh no!!" throws. I'd would rate the 10 - 2 TD/INT ratio as more important then completion %. I'd rather see a throw out of bounds to avoid a sack, or a throw that only our receiver can catch.

    I think it is progress that he doesn't force the ball as much this year on plays that just aren't there. Throw it away and get 'em on the next play or series.
     
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    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    im not suggesting that at all, im disputing the, "If you want to point out the dropped passes you have to point out the missed INT's too."

    and i went on to explain how i feel the dropped passes are affecting sanchez, a young qb who ive seen struggle when he doesnt get into a rhythm ... i dont care how dropped passes affect other qb's
     
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    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    If I remember correctly, we had a thread before the season about what Sanchez' stats would be this season and almost everyone had him around 55% this year. The thing that seems to get lost from the rational predictions is that an average is exactly that. He is gonna have games where he completes 65% of his passes and he is gonna have games where he completes 48%. What he needs to keep doing is just let his bad games be bad games and not turn them into disasters. The rest of the team can overcome Sanchez missing some passes and maybe throwing a pick or two, it's when he goes into complete meltdown mode from last year that the Jets are gonna lose.
     
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    Not to dispute you, but I think (and hope) we've progressed from there, the Ravens opener being the only exception so far this year. I think he's being asked to do more than just not turn the ball over now. He was clearly handcuffed during that Ravens MNF game because the thinking was that the Ravens defense would be ball-hawking ad nauseum (and they were). And the result was we lost that handcuff game, never having opened it up and taken the chances that might have won it for us. It was as if he was being asked to "play not to lose," and we did.

    Now I see a different Sanchez, one being asked to do it all, come hell or high water. So he's got the entire enchilada in front of him now with no restrictions. The results are going to be shaky, of course, especially at first. But we're seeing progress. I don't like the inaccurate, near-INT throws either, but I do think this young man sees those throws as being the potential game-losers that they are and will be trying to improve in that area for games 7-16.
     
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    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    Agreed, since the Baltimore game Sanchez has averaged 31.2 pass attempts per game, which is exactly where I want him.

    It allows him to get into a rhythm, make an impact with the passing game while still relying on the run game. It's also good to keep him passing in case we need to make a comeback, he'll be ready to go.

    I hated the Ravens game, Sanchez threw 7 passes the entire first half then he was expected to come out throwing and make an impact.
     
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    I'm happy he is not forcing the ball and making soooo many mistakes but he needs to be more accurate.

    It is his second season and I think he'll continue to improve in this area.
     
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    This is the main point after all. I'm sure Sanchez watched repeated game film, in slow-mo detail, of himself making these throws and was probably even more mortified than all of us were at having seen them live.

    The one thing I really like about this kid is, Ryan has said that he's probably more critical of himself than anyone else. There's no doubt he has watched himself over the Bye and is now going to be concentrating on that aspect of his game.
     
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    Thank God we have LT and the bruisers Greene and Richardson and the O-line we have. These guys all take the pressure off of Sanchez. His percentages have a much better chance of improving with the confidence of the ground game we have going.
     
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    His completion percentage is definitely a little disappointing, but it's easy to ignore because of his 83% winning percentage this year.


    I expect his completions to pick up though.
     
  18. Jets201

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    I'm very impressed with Sanchez in his second season, he's having a much better 2nd year than Matt Ryan or Flacco did and the completion % will rise
     
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    Sanchez is way further than I thought he would be at this point. I thought he would be more of a 50/50 mix int's to td's. The only disappointing thing with him is the aforementioned accuracy.

    A couple of things I noticed from re-watching games.....

    1.) He takes more shots down field on throws that have no chance. By no chance, I mean no chance to be caught by either side. So he throws a bunch of passes away every game. I do not know if this is just to stretch the field or what not.

    2.) Sanchez gets a few passes deflected at the line every game. I think this is a by product of a really good line. Instead of getting sacked he throws it into players hands 2-3 + times per game. I guess this is where his lack of height comes into play.

    Those a couple of observations that decrease his accuracy, #1 is a much bigger factor than #2.

    Again, Sanchez is further along in his development than the vast majority of true Sophomore QB's and it really is very encouraging. However, we as fans should still expect those brainfarts etc out of him and it is just a normal part of his development.
     
  20. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Throwing 44 times in the rain didn't help. Torrential fucking downpour but let's air it out anyway.

    The Jets have tried being more vertical this year, which I don't think I necessarily agree with.

    He's missed some throws, he's said he's missed them. In his sophomore year, I'm not going to get crazy about anything. This year, limiting turnovers is the most important thing.

    The article states he strayed from his funamentals. What did he do during the bye week? Worked on his fundamentals. He was working out getting better, keeping two hands on the ball, footwork, etc.

    The kid will be fine.

    I would like him at 58% this year. That's a great improvement from last year.
     

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