You started a thread because we have no one that compares to Woodley, Harrison, and Polamalu? ....who does? Our defense is top 2 in the league, it can't have an All-Pro at every single position.
Do we need a thread every week that says "this other team's D is better, why can't we be more like them?" First that shitty thread about the "pass rush clinic" IND and HOU were supposedly putting on, and now this?
No I started a thread about my concerns about the speed and coverage ability of the middle of the Jets defense. How have Scott, Harris, Pace, Thomas, Drew Coleman, Pool and Leonhard performed in man to man coverage this year? The Steelers defense is extremely different. I'm not comparing the Steelers and Jets defense.
I used the Steelers defense as an example. Most teams linebackers and safeties are much better in coverage then the Jets. Have you watched the Jets struggle to cover the slot and tight ends all year?
Really? Well I don't know what you are watching but the Jets are not getting chewed up by other teams tight ends. Lets put the "TE's are eating this defense up" nonsense to bed for good: Game 1: Todd Heap 6 for 72 Game 2: Hernandez 8 for 101 (not a true TE) Game3: Fasano 2 for 14 yds. 1 td Game 4: David Martin 1 for 4 yds 1 TD Game 5: Shiancoe 2 for 28 Game 6: Dan Graham 0 for 0 Game 7: D Lee 1 for 5 Game 8: Scheffler 2 for 22 Pettigrew 3 for 18 1 TD So in 8 games the opponents TE's have totaled the following : 25 for 264 and 3 tds ...... that is coverage problems? On avg.... 3.125 catches for 34 yards and .375 TDs per game....yippee That is including Hernandez in the deal. Hernandez looks and smells like a Wr to me. But in the spirit of keeping his stats in and still making your argument look ridiculous, I am keeping them in. Really? Edit: An oversight on my part......sorry: I didn't put Gronkowski in the stats... 1 catch for 14 yards. Also I didn't put Kleinsausser from Minnesota on the list because I am almost positive he was the FB in that game. If he didn't that was an additional 1 catch for 5 yards.
Hey if your content with how the middle of our defense is doing in coverage then that's great. I think we have size and speed issues in the middle of our defense. We are fortunate that we have Cromatie and Revis. I'm not saying the jets defense sucks, I'm saying it's a concern going forward. Can we cover the slot? If we play the Ravens again who is who covering Heap? Next game against the Pats who is matching up with Hernandez and Gronkowski? Drew Coleman is awful. We don't have a linebacker that has the speed to run 25 yards with tight ends. Why do you think the Jets have struggled on third down most of the season?
Rhodes is terrible. You see sunday after he picked off favre running down the sideline, he's 5 yards away form a TD and he starts huffing and puffing and fumbles the ball Lmao he's a joke. Rex Ryan > Sherry Loads.
The point of having CBs like Revis and Cromartie is that we can use our LB to pass rush and stop the run. LBs job in this defense is not to be able to cover TE down field.
Pittsburgh's secondary isn't any good. They're ranked like 26th. They have better pass rushers then us but they don't cover as good as us. What does that say about the secondary? The Jets don't get pressure on anyone anymore. The blitzes almost always get blocked this year. Teams are ready for it. The Jets secondary is going to be scary if they can figure out how to cover the slot receiver. Cro and Revis have there guys locked up most of the game. What the Jets need for the future is a play making safety and a great pass rusher. That would make our defense complete.
After analyzing this game further, I have come to the conclusion that the Cincinnati Bengals are a terrible football team. Most defenses have looked good against them.
Drew Coleman is the only player on your list I'm concerned with. Pool doesn't play too much man, Harris, Pace, and Scott are not supposed to be premiere coverage LB's.....and Leonhard does well with what he's got, he just gets put in tough situations sometimes.
Teams are finding our soft spot, and they are using crossing patterns and quick slants in the middle of the field. Rex mentioned it in passing, it wasn't something he wanted to talk about even when fielding a direct question about it. He said teams don't want to throw at Revis or Cro. He sort of excused Lowery by saying how good Burleson is. Anyone notice how Pouha backed off the line and blocked that pass? That was an adjustment because the Lions were picking the middle apart on us. Pouha almost picked that pass, it bounced off his face mask. No doubt the weakness in our D is the short and medium middle. Rex even went to some zone trying to adjust. Lowery just could not stay with Burelson in man coverage. We really could use Wilson to step up.
You mean Coleman, not Lowery. Sorry to nitpick but I don't want Coleman to escape even 1% of the shit that he should be getting for his (lack of) performance.
You are trying to have 15 arguments to defend your 1 point. Lets go point by point: 1.) Coleman is awful- great point. Not many see this, you are one of the only people to point this out. Show me a 3rb CB on a team that is a superstar. There are other options on the roster, the coaching staff is rewarding him for what they see in practice. 2.) The middle of this defense is it's strength. You are fucking nuts. Pouha, Harris and Scott make it near impossible to run on this team. Ridiculous point........ 3.) Slot WR- This is the only option for an opposing QB. Lets wait till we see how Rex and Company answer this. Revis is finally playing like Revis. So lets not light ourselves on fire in panic. 4.) OMG OMG OMG the Tightends are coming- Let answer your question with a question. What 2 ways did Rex and company adjust to neutralizing Heap, Hernandez and Gronkowski? Since you are so scared let me answer that for you....... Wilson played well on Heap and largely neutralized him in the second half. I do not know how they neutralized Hernandez quite frankly as I do not know who was covering him in the 2nd half. I would have to go back and watch that game something I can not do tonight. All I know is, the Pats and Hernandez/Gronkowski did absolutely nothing in the second half. To secondarily answer your question on how the Jets are neutralizing TE's. Opponents are max protecting like crazy to neutralize the overload blitzing. Right there TE's are being kept in protection. 5.) 3rd down struggles- Revis hurt............ The best defender for the Jets has been hurt for 5 games. What do you expect? Not to mention Pace is still getting back into shape. Lack of size and speed? I am not going to answer. If you think the Jets D is small and slow you are again nuts and not worth the time I put into this reply. Also this:
