So her logic is that allowing "significantly fewer points" isn't significant if you aren't leading in more meaningful stats like sacks and total defense? In the words of Fitty, "Suck a dick shit.....TRICK!"
I'd love to see a mixture of a Jets/Giants defense. 4/3 scheme DE Justin Tuck DT Kris Jenkins DT Sione Pouha DE Osi Umenyiora RLB Calvin Pace/Bryan Thomas MLB Bart Scott LLB David Harris CB Darrelle Revis CB Antonio Cromartie SS Jim Leonhard FS Antrel Rolle .....Or not a mixture... Just those two defensive ends, and Rolle.
i was actually referring to using it to judge defensive performance since most people just look at total points allowed and divide by games, not taking into account points scored off offensive turnovers, special teams etc. i think our ppg on D dipped like 3 ppg last year taking out points not allowed by defense. im sure they are pretty close this year since we haven't had the turnover problems we had last season. but your point above is a good one too. anyone can take any one stat and shout hey we're great b/c we have so and so ypg, but if you're 16/21 in ppg i doubt it means very much
Why is there a thread about a woman's opinion on sports? Go start a WNBA or Food Network thread, keep this shit off the Jets forum.
Giants dline is one of the best in the league, everyone knows that. But to write off as she did the running ypc and ppg is just silly.
I know this won't be popular to say, but there are certain statistical advantages the Giants' defense has over the Jets' defense. And both defenses have shown weaknesses at times. The Giants defense has had 2 games where they were just awful while the Jets defense has failed to make stops late in games (though this is often overlooked because Sanchez's late game heroics made up for the defensive breakdown). Neither defense is horrible, neither defense is amazing. They are both damned good. Now, for my two cents on how the units match up. The edge for defensive line obviously goes to the Giants and, frankly, it should. They run a 4-3 and place a greater emphasis on DL talent than the Jets do. The Jets have better linebackers as they should (once again, this is demanded by their defensive scheme). In terms of stopping the run I would say the Jets are better at this than the Giants as they have two great run-stuffing ILBs in Harris & Scott. The Giants are (obviously) the more dangerous pass-rushing team; this is their area of strength and the one area of the Jets defense that can be considered a legitimate weakness. The Secondaries are interesting to compare. The Jets have the best DB on either team in Revis. Their starting duo of Cromartie and Revis is obviously superior to Webster & Thomas but I don't think it's as wide a margin as many here would believe. Regardless of that point, it is worth mentioning that Aaron Ross is the Giants' nickel and he is a better player than whomever Ryan chooses to play in the slot that week. The Giants also have more talent & depth at the safety position (and Fewell makes frequent use of this). I give the edge to the Jets defense due to their consistency, the Giants have laid some stinkers and the Jets have not. Talent-wise, however, the two units stack up fairly well. I also believe the Giants defense is improving as the season goes on and players become more familiar with Fewell's system. Anyway, that's my take (as seen through blue-tinted glasses), feel free to comment on how I should have that prescription altered.
Indeed! She should be creating delicious meals for men to eat, not writing down anything more complicated than cooking recipes.
The giants loft defensive stats came against bad QBs Shaun Hill and Drew Stanton Kitna for a game and a half Whitehurst in his first ever start Moore/ Clauson (rookie QB) Todd Collins thats a horrible stable of QBs to have faced. also remember taht 10 sacks came in 1 game against the bears. the other 10 games they had 21 sacks or 2.1 per game. the jets in 11 games have 24 or 2.18 per game. so the olofty sack total was the result of 1 game as well. thats why you can't just look at stats. Cause come playoff time they won't be facing those Bum QBs , they'll be facing brees, rodgers, ryan, vick and those QBs will eat them up
Yes, yes it does. Or maybe her argument invalidated her opinion because it was terrible. I don't care.. you can post a picture of yourself and I'll make fun of it just the same.
First and foremost the Giants have a great D. Their front 4 is dominant, and despite the outrage here, Webster has been playing at a high level. Not sure about Thomas. Right now they are #2 ypg-wise and the NYJ are #3, right there with them. The NYJ also have better ppg, but both are playing at a high level like they have in the past. I wish we had their passrush...
Perhaps on a ypg basis the Gints are doing well but on a ypa basis they are doing quite a bit worse. Team - ppg - ypc - ypa - Takeaways Jets .-. 17.0 - 3.4 - 6.4 .- 17 Gints - 23.3 - 4.4 - 7.4 .- 16 Which positive feature of the Jets would you trade for their pass rush? Or would you like a free pony as well?
The problem is the schemes are so different. the jets run a 3-4 which dictates that you need stud LBers and the d-line isn't that important. the giants run a 4-3 which is the opposite. the d-line needs to be studs and the LBers aren't important. But if i'm taking a front 7 i'd go with the jets by far. yeah the giants have better DEs but the jets DTs are better (jenks and pohua are better then canty and cofield) and our LBers are way better. the gianst don't have 1 LBer that would eve make our team probably. that leaves the secondary and coverage now. The giants play a zone drop 7 into coverage (usually with 3 safeties, 3 CBs, and a LBer) and get pressure with 4. this works against sub-par QBs like the giants have been playing. but anyone who knows football will tell you that a great QB will always beats a zone coverage. Webster and thomas can't cover man on man and decent WRs they got burnt at every attempt in the dallas game by austin and bryant. and the safeties are good at blitzing and run support but still let up too many big plays.
Revis could probably comment on the Giants defense the best, they are a bunch of slouches imo. When the their Dlineis fired up,they can carry that team and are the best in football. But if you are really being picky shouldn't go the other way???? The Jest DLine is better at stopping the run, so you can make a case that the only thing the Giants do better than ours is rush the QB.
