Our Rookie Class

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  1. Jetsandcanes

    Jetsandcanes Active Member

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    Honestly is there a team in the NFL that has gotten less from there rookie class than the Jets this season?

    Kyle Wilson- Our 5th DB

    Vlad- Mostly a healthy inactive all season

    Joe Mcknight- Same as Vlad

    John Conner- A gimmick
     
  2. JetFanInTampa

    JetFanInTampa Banned

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    So far our draft looks horrible. Wilson is still young and does have talent, hopefully he'll get better. Conner will be a starter when Richardson retires. McKnight isnt gonna play much when we have Lt and Greene, he has been good on special teams lately. In year or two when Lt retires he will get more playing time. Vlad, who the hell knows, he was a project. Didnt like drafting him in round 2. Right now it looks bad, but we'll see in a couple years.
     
  3. Mr Electric

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    Are you fucking kidding me? He's backing up one of the best fullbacks ever.
     
  4. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Its not easy to start on a loaded team. That said they should be doing better but I wont call it a bust draft yet. Next year we will start to see what we will get. Wilson physically has all the tools to be a great corner and he has 2 of the best to learn from. Vlad shouldnt even be argued because we all knew from the beginning he wont be playing. Conner is doing what we all expected and Mcknight can show uswhat he has against the Bills.
     
  5. MikeHoncho

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    That Wilson can't even beat out Drew Coleman is alarming. But the others I didn't really expect to contribute much this year. I expect them all to be solid players for us though.
     
  6. Mambo9

    Mambo9 Well-Known Member

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    Ducasse and McKnight were projects with a high ceiling all along. Conner is playing behind one of the best FBs of the last decade. Wilson disappointed me but CB takes a while to learn... especially in our man coverage system...
     
  7. Jetsandcanes

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    Look of course you can't judge a draft after one season.

    But the fact we literally have gotten ZERO production from any of these guys this season is amazing. Is there another NFL team that can say that?
     
  8. AbdulSalam

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    you dont judge a draft after 1 season. the rule of thumb is 3 seasons.
     
  9. truthbtold

    truthbtold Well-Known Member

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    At the very least, wasn't this kid supposed to be a dynamic punt returner?
     
  10. ManlyGenius

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    If you draft a guard in the second they should start from day one, period. It's a low-value position. You can get a project at quarterback or OLB late in the second but a guard who's so much of a project he can't start is a waste of a pick.

    Same thing with Conner. If you draft a fullback they should start, period. You can get a good blocking fullback off the street if you want one, so you're wasting a pick if you draft a fullback who isn't going to play. Not that Conner isn't decent, but roster spots and draft picks are both too valuable to spend one on a backup fullback.

    I also wouldn't call McKnight a project-he's a big name player with a lot of experience at a big name school. He's more of a hit or miss pick than a player you'd expect to get better over time.
     
  11. Deathstroke

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    Well he hasn't been getting a chance
     
  12. ManlyGenius

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    He did early in the season and lost the job because he wasn't getting it done.
     
  13. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    Yeah, and how many teams draft a backup fullback in the 5th round?

    I understand he fits into the type of team Rex wants to have and he can contribute on special teams, but it's still a bit of a strange pick.

    The other picks have all been horrible. No doubt, the Jets' lack of impact draftees this year have hurt this team. I'm not writing off Wilson, Ducasse, or McKnight at all, but this rookie year has been full of red flags for them, and they've been complete non-factors.

    That's when lacking picks comes back to bite you. If you miss on a few, you don't have the depth to make up for it. And we haven't had a single young player step up this year other than Slauson, and we handed him the job. I don't really count Sanchez because he's the quarterback, and he's just so obvious. Greene hasn't stepped up enough to steal LT's job.

    That's what happens when you draft 7 guys in 2 years. Not saying New England is the best drafting team, but they had a great draft this year. They stockpile picks. I'm also not saying we should trade down a million times and pick up future picks. But we trade up too much in the draft.

    I appreciate being aggressive in the draft to get the guys you want, but unless the perfect player is sitting there for us, I'm firmly against another trade-up.
     
  14. FlightBoys

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    Wilson should be getting better over time... hopefully.
    McKnight I have no comments about.
    Conner could possibly be the FB of the future.
    And Ducasse, If they really thought he had potential, he would be in the game.
     
  15. ace_o_spades

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    Wilson is the only one who I would call a disappointment for this year. I was hoping he'd step in and be successful right off the bat but that wasn't the case. He'll get there, he was a first round pick and I trust Tanny/Rex.

    McKnight has done well as a gunner and I think he'll make an impact next year as a 3rd down RB. Of course he was picked over Frodo for this year but if we cut McKnight and kept Frodo, he would be inactive every Sunday. I can understand the decision to keep the player you invested a draft pick in...it just sucks to see Frodo doing so well.

    Our OL is one of the best in the league so I didn't expect Ducasse to play at all this year, especially when you consider how well Slauson has played.

    Conner will be a great FB when he gets his chance.
     
  16. AbdulSalam

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    hilarious to see a few here reading so much into 1 yr after the draft and presuming falsely that every OL and FB drafted early must immediately play... LOL - that ain't necessarily so in the nfl.
     
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  17. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I said this in the draft forum, but I am tired of project picks.

    In 2011, the Jets need players who can contribute immediately. I'm not asking for Pro-Bowlers, I want guys who can play substantial minutes and have a positive impact on the team's production.
     
  18. ace_o_spades

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    I think now is the time to start trading down and acquiring picks. We're not lacking in obvious starters, just depth and youth.
     
  19. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    yes, our 2010 draft class has struggled. however mcknight has shown promise lately
     
  20. ManlyGenius

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    I'll bet anything they expected Ducasse to start ahead of Slauson-they were giving him all the first team reps early on-but he just couldn't hack it.

    The disconcerting thing about Ducasse is that they aren't even activating him as the backup guard/tackle. Even if he couldn't get ahead of Slauson he should have at least gotten ahead of Turner or Hunter.
     

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