The Jets and Ryan : From a NE Perspective

Getting to the title game next year and losing will most likely be considered a failure. There are many different types of failures, it's not like the '96 Jets but it will be a failure losing in that game a 3rd straight year. let's hope we have the opportunity and let's hope it is at home this time.

 

I don't spend any time keeping track of what Pats fans are thinking except for game week against their team. But if as this article assumes their fanbase views their past season as a failure, I would have to guess that part of that is the fact that they lost to the Jets in the divisional game. Speaking objectively, if the measure is winning the Super Bowl, then sure everyone who doesn't is a failure. But a more measured standard would have to include that talking about the team with the best regular season record in the league as a failure is a bit much.

What DOES give pause for those guys is that their playoff loss was to an up and coming division opponent. And a hated rival. That would have to be part of it, I think.

 

this.

I don't want the Jets to become the Buffalo Bills of the AFC championship....getting there 3 or 4 straight years and losing everytime.

I hope we get over that hump as early as next year.....we finally have the CS and roster talent to complete that task.

 

Probably. The only reason why I might disagree is the circumstance heading into next season. With our 21 FAs, we have quite a bit of turnover and rebuilding to do. Expectations have to be balanced between that and the young core we've managed to secure. If we keep Sanchez's weapons intact going into his 3rd season, it truly does have to be Super Bowl or bust. If the team opts to cut loose at least one receiver and LT to get younger on defense, however, expectations are going to have to be tempered a bit.

 

I don't think we'll be losing as much as people think. Losing guys like Taylor, jenkins, Smith, etc... won't hurt us. Assuming we get Harris back and 2 of the 3 from Cro, Braylon and Holmes we'll be in good shape.

 

good point.

I guess it's a little early to speculate without knowing how FA and the draft turns out for us.

 

Pretty sad that a writer in NE paints a better picture then any of our Jet writers.


We had huge roster turnover this year too, I'm confident Rex an coach up any defense. The key for me is making sure Sanchez has weapons.

 

That's as far as I got.

Seductive, Belichick and Tom Brady should not be used in the same sentence.

Skimming the rest.... 'getting to the Superbowl' isn't the ultimate challenge. Winning the Superbowl is.

Losing in the Superbowl is seen as the ultimate failure. Ask Buffalo.

 

No, losing the guys we're going to lose doesn't hurt us. It just leaves us with more holes on the roster. I realize most of the talk rightfully centers around the big stud FAs, but this year is also going to be about depth. We cut Taylor, Jenkins, Thomas...we have 24 holes to fill (22 actually. Dixon and Cole are already back). Signing Harris, Braylon, and Holmes is great, but we then have to be smart about the other 19. If we can get cheap, quality depth (including necessary resigns like Hunter, Turner, Coleman, Ihedigbo, etc), we'll improve with Sanchez's development. If spent money forces us to pick up a ton of UDFAs for depth, that job becomes a bit tougher.

 

I like some parts of the article but how has Rex delivered on all the talk? Yes, we've been extremely successful, beyond most of our dreams when he was initially hired. But when all you talk about is Super Bowl for the past 12 months, and you get that close and fail, you haven't delivered.

That said, I couldn't be too much happier in the direction the New York Jets organization is headed.

 

that's a completely asinine criteria and I apologize if my dispute is too aggressive but the stupidity of it is beyond belief.

losing the Super Bowl isn't seen as the ultimate failure. ask the Arizona Cardinals, the Seattle Seahawks, or the Carolina Panthers. just as it wasn't a failure for Buffalo after they lost to the Giants.

it becomes a failure when you continually lose the Super Bowl, like Buffalo, or the conference championship, like the Eagles. but it is a huge gaping difference between losing one and losing multiple.

 

And the link...

http://www.projo.com/sports/billreynolds/Reynolds_Rex_Ryan_Jets_AFC_Belic.5258493.html

 

When your team has a spectacular December beating some of the best teams in the league and end up with the #1 seed, yeah, anything less then a Superbowl is seen as a failure. Of course if you look at what the Patriots started with, the season was actually a surprise in what many considered a rebuilding year.

To be honest, I think this author is responding to the trend of the moment. The Jets beat Patriots in the playoffs and therefore that will continue next year. I say MAYBE. Maybe the "curse" is broken so to speak, maybe the Jets will dominate next year but I wouldn't assume if I was a Jets fan that the Jets are going to win the AFC East or get a bye next year. They've certainly improved and should be considered a strong contender for both but every year is different. And most team change every year.

 

You don't actually consider Cimini as a Jets writer do you?


MB: The Eagles lost 3 NFC Champ games before they went to the Superbowl. To be that dominant in a Conference is still remarkable - loss or not. That's a chance at a VLT every year for four years. Of course we all want to win a SB but being at or near the top of the conference multiple consecutive years is still impressive nonetheless. The Jets heading to the playoffs multiple years in a row is impressive considering this franchises' history. Of course our expectation have been raised now, mostly because of our coach. But if you take a step back, the Jets are on fire in a way they have never been before and I am loving it.

Igs: Good points in both your posts.

I'm not so concerned about the off-season. I'm with a lot of posters (NDmick comes to mind) that think keeping Sanchez' weapons is more important than anything else. I have to agree with that cause it will give us the ability to build a high powered offense to keep pace with the others in the league. Obviously Sanchez development is most important to sustain a top ranked team. All the top teams in the league have a top notch QB and that is still the key to getting to the playoffs.

I do think we need to retool the D. A pass rusher is a good add in. However a really strong secondary, with a new good coverage FS, 2 strong CBs and our current run stoppers, we should be top 5 again on D.

Remember - Rex prides himself on finding talent in obscure places such as UDFAs and late round picks. Westoff said the same thing. I am sure we can get younger on the DLine with a couple of obscure pick ups like we did with DeVito and Pouha and might even get lucky with a dominant NT found in the trash pile. I trust that Rex is a good enough coach to get the trash heap guys playing up to "serviceable" levels.

 

It's all relative. Like Rex said to open camp on Hard Knocks, you want to be where expectations are high. If you don't envision it and you don't shoot for it you won't get it. You can't be afraid of failure, Rex isn't and now the Jets aren't. Look at the demons they've exorcised in just two seasons and there's still a few more to go.

 

I never said I was unhappy with anything besides local writers. I love where we are headed and I'm very confident Mark & Rex will bring us at least one championship.

 

Legit article. I agree with pretty much everything.... RR will have to deliver a SB in his tenure in order for his work to be considered a success (every coach does), not necessarily next year but that is where the bar is set. Thus far he's done an amazing job and I think we'll be serious contenders for years.

 

It's Super Bowl or bust from here on out now. And I love it.