9/5-9/7: Yanks vs. O's

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  1. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Well, I really hope not. Otherwise it means AJ has crapped out again.
     
  2. Yisman

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    please no homers from cano today.
     
  3. Yisman

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    Michael Kay just said that he was told that they used 170 bags of Diamond Dust yesterday. Those bags are 50 pounds each.

    I wonder how much that cost.
     
  4. TommyJ

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    i'd rather have a butterknife shoved through my neck than listen to kay, i turn the sound off when i watch. i just can't take it.
     
  5. TommyJ

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    this game is painful.
     
  6. Yisman

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    Very sloppy. Martin and Nunez have had problems in the field.
     
  7. TommyJ

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    tex, cano go down after montero leads off on base, granderson keeps it alive, but it's up to Nunez, he's got some pop in his bat.
    c'mon !!
     
  8. TommyJ

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    well that certainly was a bust, ahh fuck it, got a 1.5 game lead.
     
  9. Cappy

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    Detroit has passed Texas in the standings. Should we start rooting for the yanks to win the wild card?
     
  10. Jake

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    Burnett is such a piece of trash. He can't be trusted in the playoffs... even if he pitched decent down the stretch I would be pissed the fuck off if he's in the playoff rotation. Colon hasn't been dominant since the ASG, but he's been keeping the team in the game, and Freddy has defied the odds. Unless Freddy completely falls off, he's gotta stay in the rotation.
     
  11. Brunell's Debt

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    I think that Texas has been the most overrated team all season. Very good lineup but not a single one of their pitchers scares me.
     
  12. Cappy

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    In fairness, Burnett was really hurt by the poor defense in yesterday's game. (Of course, some of that poor defense was his own.) And he was backed by a AAA lineup.

    CJ Wilson is pretty damn good. But I think that lineup is good enough to overcome any pitching deficiencies they might have... especially if you're talking about facing the Yanks, where it's CC > ???.

    But I'd rather face Texas in a five-game series than have to fave Verlander twice in five games.
     
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    I also think that the Yankees lineup is good enough to overcome any pitching deficiencies that New York might have.

    It's funny, for all the hand wringing about the Yankees rotation it very well may be the best of any AL playoff team. Based on their bodies of work this season, I'd take Sabathia-Nova-Garcia-Colon over Wilson-Ogando-Harrison-Holland, Verlander-Fister-Scherzer-Porcello, or Beckett-Lester-Lackey-Miller.

    It's been a great year for top flight pitchers, but nobody in the AL has rotation depth and the Yankees have an outstanding offense. We're very close to Boston in all aspects, but we won't be an underdog to anyone.
     
  14. Don

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    We should be rooting not to face Verlander twice in a 5 game series..period.
     
  15. AlioTheFool

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    I still want Detroit. I don't give a shit what anyone else says. We can beat Detroit while the Sox and Texas beat on each other. If it's the Rays, however, I might be more inclined to take my chances and let them face Verlander first.

    Anyway, as for the game, how can anyone realistically pin that one on AJ? The only anti-AJ sentiment with any validity yesterday was that a starting pitcher shouldn't toss up a homer after an error extends an inning. However, Nunez is utter shit in the field, and he cost the Yankees the game yesterday. AJ made one bad pitch. Nunez made errors, including one he didn't even get charged with. How does a middle infielder let a popup behind the mound touch grass?

    AJ has earned at least one more go-round in the rotation.

    Never mind Genius Joe's managerial skills. Either you're sitting guys, or you're not. If you plan on putting guys in to pinch hit, you may as well start at least some of them. He made the starting lineup like a little kid sulking for his team's treatment by MLB the night before, but then decided half-way through he actually wanted to win the game. Yet people will still insist that Girardi doesn't cost this team wins.

    Anyway, Boston helped us out from what I hear. Bard blew it? Good.
     
  16. Brunell's Debt

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    The Yankees have a 9 game lead on the last playoff spot, they play 15 games in the last 14 days of the season, and you're complaining that he let the starters rest in a meaningless game the day after a marathon that ended at 2am? Really??

    As for AJ, you are way too happy to make excuses for him. Yeah the defense sucked, but he was part of that bad defense. And he has no one but himself to blame for 4 walks and 3 wild pitches. His start wasn't a disaster by any means, but that performance did nothing to suggest that he's a better option than CC, Garcia, Nova, Colon, or Hughes.

    I'd be fine giving him another start just because I'm happy to rest the other guys as long as our playoff spot is assured, but Burnett has done nothing to prove that he should be in this rotation.
     
  17. AlioTheFool

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    Well, the first thing isn't that I'm complaining he rested starters. I'm complaining that if you're going to rest them, rest them. Don't start the game with a AAA lineup then halfway through decide to try to win the game.

    It's pretty obvious Girardi was pulling a Billy Martin by throwing out a ridiculous lineup in response to rain delay. He then came to the realization that he's in a pennant race, and started getting everyone in. One or the other is all I'm saying.

    AJ did miss the bag on one play, that's on him. As for his wild pitches, that's what you're going to get from a guy whose breaking pitches drop like his do. He actually praised Martin yesterday for being such a good catcher and his ability to block most of the stuff he throws. He knows he's going to throw it in the dirt.

    I'm not advocating anything at this point. Like I said, his performance (and I should ammend that to include "plus the performances of everyone not named CC lately") warrants another opportunity to start. Honestly, I've always championed the 6-starter rotation, even in prior years, when the availability exists. Keep arms fresh when you know you're in the playoffs. You can decide who gets to be in the precious few spots when the leaves start changing.
     
  18. Joker78

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    Go yankees
     
  19. Cappy

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    Obvious to you, maybe, who loves an opportunity to get on Girardi, but I don't think that makes much sense.

    I'd say he threw out that lineup because - as he said - some of the guys didn't get to bed until 4am. And I'd bet you almost anything that he told the team who'd be sitting the night before, so the bench guys didn't have to show up at 10am and could get another hour or two of sleep. If the game was a total blowout one way or the other, they would've had a full day's rest, I'm sure.

    ETA: As it was, there were two subs in the sixth (Cano and Tex), one in the seventh (Granderson), and two in the eleventh (Dickerson and Chavez). That hardly seems like he was rushing to get them in as though he was planning on playing them.
     
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  20. Jake

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    Scott fucking Proctor. WHY?!?!!!
     

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