Mark Sanchez..

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  1. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, Schotty told him to fumble, throw a pick six and generally play poorly.

    What the Sanchez Excuse Makers come up with after he sucks in a game is getting to be a silver lining to these awful losses. At least there is some amusement provided.
     
  2. LoyalJetsFan

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    This disaster is not on Mark. If you put Montana behind this O-Line, he's getting lit up like a Christmas Tree.
     
  3. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    There are a lot of things Mark can do better right now. And one of those is to do a better job with his pre-reads. He can help himself out a lot by getting this right.
     
  4. Mr Electric

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    Schottenheimer keeps putting him in these dangerous situations.

    Passing on first down with no blindside protection inside of your own 10 yard line is incredibly risky. ...especially against Baltimore.

    The poor play and inaccuracy late in the game was because Sanchez was shellshocked from getting hit so much.

    The kid had a horrible game, but I do not disagree with the guys that are blaming his troubles on the offensive line.

    Nick Mangold is much for than just a powerful blocker. The guy identifies blitzers and makes line calls/adjustments. I guarantee Baxter isn't able to do that the right way yet. Sanchez is handicapped without him on the field.
     
  5. ace_o_spades

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    Sanchez isn't mature enough yet to make all the pre snap reads without help from a competent center which the jets won't have until Mangold is back.
     
  6. Mr Electric

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    I believe Sanchez's development has been crippled a bit because of this too.

    He's relied heavily on Mangold to help with pre-snap reads.
     
  7. akibud

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    hang in there Sanchez faithfuls, he is still developing, right, after all, this is only his third year in the league. He has a half wit for an offensive coordinator and no offensive line as well. Sanchez has been exposed!! he is not a franchise QB, he was average the last 2 years when he was surrounded by above average talent on the o line with good skill receivers. Look at the other young QB's around the league, none of them has had the support on their teams that Sanchez has had, not to mention the defense he had the last 2 years. Stafford was hurt mostly, Ryan is head and shoulders above Sanchez and he is yet to win a playoff game (I think) Bradford is on a crappy team and he is the playing QB like an future NFL all pro already. Sanchez is a bust. He will take down this coach and GM as soon as the fans realize it.
     
  8. fozzi58

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    I'm certainly no Mark "protector" or apologist but we don't know what play calls at the line he is making.

    There were a couple times in the game where The OL is coming off blocks or missing blocks and Sanchez is getting hit.

    One play stands out where Slaw & DBrick are on one guy together and another pass rusher comes free. Or Baxter came off a blocked man and that blocked guy came in.

    So we don't know if Mark is calling for the protection and the OL fucks it up or if MS just can't recognize it.
     
  9. Mr Electric

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    Calling Sam Bradford a future All-Pro is fucking retarded. Not surprising it's coming from you though.

    Matt Ryan has some incredible talent on his team. He's also struggled early this season because...

    Wait for it...

    Wait for it...

    His offensive line lost some key players and he's been getting hit quite a bit.

    No quarterback in this league can win and produce without protection.
     
  10. akibud

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    the first offensive play of the game is a good example. I suspect that most QB's would recognize that there is an uncovered safety at the end of the line to their blind side. They would either find a hot read to that side the safety is blitzing from, or change the play or protection to account for him. Not Sanchez, he drops back all unconcerned looking away from the uncovered blitzing safety like he never even knew he was there
     
  11. Big Blocker

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    Imo this is a clear example of how Sanchez was at fault, and that fault cannot be placed primarily on the OL or CS.

    A rookie Qb you would want to spend time with, letting him learn what to look for as the D sets up before the ball is snapped. But Reed had a clear shot at him from where he stood. Either Sanchez quite simply did not see him, or failed to adjust the play after seeing him.

    I don't know which is worse in terms of what you would want out of your starting Qb in the NFL, three years into his career, as a fifth overall pick.

    Face it, it's a big problem.
     
  12. Catt_County

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    Wanna trade with the Bills? The Bills OL has 2 quality OLers on their line: Eric Wood at C and Andy Levitre at LG. LT, RG, and RT are all projects or rejects from other teams and wouldn't be starting on most other NFL teams, including the Jets, except for injuries. Fitzpatrick's been sacked on 2 or 3 times in 4 games, and only hit a few more times.

    The problem is that your offensive scheme sucks. Good offensive schemes makes players better while bad ones make players worse. "Ground and pound" = fail. The DCs know that the Jets don't like to stretch the field, so they keep defenders up close to the LOS, shutting down the short passes and the running game. Good defenses like the Ravens feast on offenses like yours, and even mediocre ones can get lucky.
     
  13. klecko73

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    He probably was unconcerned and simply thought Reed was disguising his coverage. Ed Reed has had one sack in almost 7 years, so it wasn't something that popped out as an issue in the film room. Reed isn't and has never been known as a blitzer, so it was it against their tendencies to send him. Kudos to the Ravens staff for switching things up.

    Sometimes people forget that the other team gets paid to play and actually gameplans. Not every mistake made falls on the QB.
     
  14. akibud

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    but that analysis is quite faulty. We recognize the fact that the other team gets paid to perform as well. But, you cannot be comfortable with the concept that Reed does not usually blitz, so I don't have to change my coverage or play to account for him. That is just ridiculous. At best, you audible to something that someone, anyone!! has an eye on him, in the event he blitzes. Come on man!!
     
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