Let's get to the root of the problem here. We've seen countless threads calling for Schotty's head, and we've also heard the argument that our current roster just isn't getting the job done (dropped balls, injuries, stupid mistakes, not executing). People keep throwing out names (C.Weis for example, or B.Callahan) who will magically turn the offense around. I don't think it's that simple. With all the miscues we've seen from our offense over the last few weeks....maybe we're not as talented as we seem to be on paper. What if we bring in another OC (next week or in the offseason), and Sanchez continues to struggle? I'm not defending Schotty, I've expressed my opinion on numerous occasions regarding what should've been done with him. I'm just curious where everybody stands. So, I'll present the question. Is it the offensive system we're running or is it a lack of talent that's responsible for our recent futility? What say you, TGG. Poll forthcoming.
Hard to pick one when the answer is both. Schottenheimer's system has to go, but I don't think we have as much offensive talent as we thought we would. The downgrade from Edwards and Cotchery to Plaxico and Mason really has hurt our offense's ability to stretch the field. Get rid of Schottenheimer, then re-evaluate the talent.
Truthfully I think Schottys system has a significant chance of completely ruining Sanchez's career. One more full year of Schotty after this and im convinced the bust tag gets stuck with him for life, as well as his confidence completely shot. I mean we see it game in and game out where Sanchez legit shows the stuff you want to see, but then you also see him running the exact same 3 plays 50 times a game and it has to be so easy for a defense to predict that they just know its coming and completely shut it down and it makes him look horrible. Like seriously how many god damn fake reverses to Holmes did we run against the Pats yesterday ? I felt like every other time we ran the ball it was the exact same play
I dont think cotchery's leave hurt us on the field, maybe in the locker room... But Braylon as a deep threat most definitely had. I would like to think that if we had Braylon still we would throw more than 2 passes over 30 yards but right now, with schottys play calling, im not sure if thats true. So maybe after all we arent missing him at all simply because the play calling hasnt given the WR the chance.
These 2 lines have been a concern of mine ever since it was announced that Schotty was going to be retained as the OC back when Rex was hired. I don't think Schotty is competent at developing QBs. Junc would have you believe different, but we saw how Kellen Clemens developed under Schotty's watch.
I feel the same way. Mark Sanchez has talent, and yet he is compared to Henne. I believe that Rivers and Brees shined after Schotty left correct? We need to have Tom Moore become the defacto mentor and demote Schotty or just outright fire him. If nothing else it would boost team morale and show that there is accountability.
How can we be hurt deep when we never throw deep? What we need is Welker and then we can win 14 games a year too.
We still have talent on offense. Maybe not the same dynamic as last year but it's there. It just doesn't appear that way because Schotty has no fuckin clue to utilize it. Holmes can beat people deep but where are those plays? We run play actions and it's 10 yard routes instead of the occasional streak down the field. We're trying to run plax over the middle when he's not that type of guy You know who Schotty is lost without? brad smith. Without him to convert on third and short, Schotty looks even more inept than he really is.
But Kellen Clemens had no business being in NFL in the first place. Jets screwed up with their 2nd round pick right there. #SDF P.S. It's nice to see at least someone else (other than myself) acknowledge this fact. Thank you, Jesus!
We have 2 young RBs we drafted and haven't given a chance to. I agree we need to take a closer look at RB, but hopefully we have the answer on our roster, whether it's Greene, McKnight, Powell, or a combination of the 3.
There are just sooo many things to say bad about Shittenheimer at this point. None of them are very flattering though. What can be said POSITIVE about him? The people who defend him just say "it's not his fault", but rarely if ever do you hear someone say he does something well. Because he doesn't. You can't accurately evaluate the talent on the offense when you have an assclown handcuffing them all every week.
+1 I'm not ready to throw in the towel yet on the RB position. I want to see what we have with Powell and McKnight first. There are more pressing issues to address regarding our offense.
Hell look how Brees developed under Schotty in 02-05. Soon as he left the Chargers he took a big step up. And he even had fricken Antonio Gates and LT while on the Chargers, then pretty much nobody when he went to NO. Hell Phillip Rivers didnt even get great until 2-3 years after Schotty left. If Schotty stayed there hed prob be a middle of the pack qb at best right now
junc is delusional. I'll only ask two things before someone disagrees with me that it is schotty, PERIOD. Look at the last two games. Count 2 things. A: The number of Passplays that took 4+ Seconds to develop. B: The Number of Pass plays run out of the I formation. Schotty refuses to believe it, but this is NOT his Fathers NFL.
But it's those things Schottenheimer instilled in them that made them flourish after they left Schottenheimer's guidance. /sarcasm
Our RB position is fine. The problem is that LT isn't even at the level he is last year. Greene is just not a do it all back. He's not a matt forte/Arian foster type of player. The thing is, the things he does do well he does very well. He is a bruising bulldozing downhill runner. He's not a threat in the passing game and he's not a guy that's gonna run you to the outside. I wanted to throw my remote at the screen when I saw Schotty calling all those runs to the outside in the 2nd half after we clobbered them up the middle. Greene is very effective when he has a complimentary guy like LT who can do the other things. I think Joe McKnight can be that type of player. He's got the speed to get to the outside and the hands to make plays in the flat.
There is one huge positive though, both of those QBs DID flourish after Schotty is gone and managed to both still reach the elite level. Which means there is still hope for Sanchez, the real questions is just how much of it he can mentally handle before he breaks
