Getting Manning, keeping Sanchez would cure what ails Jets:

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  1. dustykeller

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    If you think Manning will take the field again feeling anything less than 100%, then you're nuts.

    My assumption is that he'll retire before settling for less. I'm sure he's well aware of the prognosis for his recovery.

    I like Sanchez as our QB, but compared to Peyton, he's a turd. I'm sorry if you disagree, but life wasn't meant to be fair.
     
  2. jetsown22

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    Like coming to the Jets and playing in the same town as his brother won't? Imagine how much money he makes from endorsements and sponsors?
     
  3. AarontheJet

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    If we were playing with the lead with our offense, we'd be nearly unstoppable and that's a fucking fact. I don't think we'd get Peyton, but to act like we wouldn't be better with him on the team is a fucking joke. Plus let's say if this somehow happened and Mark backed him up, Mark would substantially become a better player learning behind Manning.

    Regardless I don't think this is going to happen and honestly I think we're going to end up getting rid of Schotty and finding an OC that actually fits and is willing to use the players in the ways they should be used.
     
  4. laxin

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    Neither do I, but I cant see him making less than 15.

    And Washington has a good defense, and decent talent on offense so its not terribly displeasing to sign there and just look at Washingtons track record of throwing money at top FA. Also, Jax has a pretty decent defense and are a 1st round WR away from having a decent offense with a different QB (insert Manning) and the whole outlook really changes.

    All I'm saying is that Manning is going to get paid, if its not for his play, then its for his name. Risking all of our focus on him during FA just seems like a really bad decision.

    And plus, I just cant give up on Sanchez until we replace our RT and offensive coordinator. If next season we do so, and he doesnt improve, then we can truly say we gave him our best shot and just move on.
     
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    Yes, for a team he's played his entire career for. Going to a new team , he doesn't have the same allegiance and rapport with the front office. Given his HOF career and won a SB, he has nothing to prove anymore. He'd be extremely stupid to risk his long term health unless there's a very lucrative payday behind it.
     
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    Dude, you're just WAAAAY over the top with the "dump Sanchez" stuff, and that's why people are complaining that you're trolling. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. You just have to meet half-way. Yes, we have all seen flaws from Mark Sanchez. We've also seen him guide a team to TWO conference championships in three years. Based solely on that record, I think it's unreasonable to cast him aside as a failed project. Name any other quarterback who achieved that feat in his first two years. He's not Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers. Style points don't matter to me if he can do again what he's already done twice - and then take it one step beyond.
     
  7. jetsown22

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    Lol Manning would never even consider Washington, when is the last time they made the playoffs?
     
  8. jetsown22

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    And people are way over the top with Sanchez will definately develop crap, its all Shotty's, Holmes, the defenses fault crap. These are the same people who are calling me a idiot for wanting Manning over Sanchez starting next year.
     
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    More than he makes now? How many goddamn hours are there in a day?

    Not to mention, he'll pay higher taxes on his income playing in New York. Would you really like to continue this line of argument?
     
  10. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Why would his want for a better surrounding team change because he went to a different team? Maybe Peyton wants to be known as the best who ever played the position and know's it's going to take at least one more championship for that to happen?
     
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    Find those quotes. Back that up. MOST of what you hear is more like, "It's only his third goddamn season."
     
  12. jetsown22

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    People have been blaming Shotty and the receivers all year for the reason why Sanchez sucks. Oh ya don't forget oline.
     
  13. laxin

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    If you think Peyton will play like the Peyton in 2010... Im not saying he's not going to feel 100%, but he just wont be the Peyton of old as far as velocity and quickness of throwing motion are concerned.

    Its pretty much not possible, I mean if it was, than he could play forever, and so could anyone else. He is old, and his body will start to deteriorate as did Favre's last year. And Favre never had the huge neck injuries like Peyton.

    Im sure he will still play at a high level, but not near what we are used to seeing from him- MVP type season
     
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    He can't possibly make any more from endorsements than he already does. As it is, he is in every 3rd commercial. The NFL is a national sport. Playing in NY does not add much to a player's endorsement ability.
     
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    I know there was a lot of PR about that but it's not particularly true. The Colts paid Peyton 32 million in 2011 (a $20 million signing bonus and 12 million in salary and other bonuses) and they have to decide by March 8 whether to waive him (and take a $16 million salary cap hit) or pay him a $28 million bonus. (They have to make that decision before they can trade him). It was a cap friendly deal for the 2011 season but he didn't leave money on the table.

    The whole "turned down being the highest paid player in the league" thing was spinning the franchise tag as a contract offer to make him the highest paid player in the league.
     
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    If they played Grossman the whole year this year, they most likely would have this year...
     
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    Favre was 41 years old last year while Manning is 35, also at 40 he had one of his best seasons,also what makes you a expert? Any excuse to have Sanchez starting next year though right? Your just speculating and thinking of the worst that can happen and thinking off any reason why Sanchez should be here next year. I really hope some of you don't work in our front office though otherwise were screwed for a long time. Anyone with a brain ask themselves this please, who has accomplished more in their careers Sanchez or Manning? Who gives us a better chance to win next year Sanchez or Manning? Who has already proven themselves Sanchez or Manning?
     
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    And if he gets fired at the end of the year as all the rumors seem to suggest, then their blame won't have been all that off-base, wouldn't you say?

    Nobody has given Mark Sanchez a pass for his mistakes. Most people seem to recognize that young quarterbacks do that. Remember the famous Jim Mora "playoffs?!" rant? People forget it was prompted by Peyton having a ass-bad four interception game. Young quarterbacks make mistakes. It would be very Jet-like to do what you suggest and cut Mark Sanchez only to have a more mature Sanchez lead some other team.
     
  19. laxin

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    Are you fucking kidding me? Are you capable of comprehending my posts?

    Im saying I think this is far too risky BECAUSE it would screw us over in five years.

    BTW, Favre never had three huge neck surgeries by the age of 35. Next season Peyton will be well through the age of 36. He will enter next season 36 with 3 major surgeries. Please tell me how you would be confident in this franchise's future if we signed Manning?
     
  20. jetsown22

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    What fuckn risk? Your acting like Sanchez just made the probowl and were cutting ties with a great Qb? Keep Sanchez and hoping he pans out is a lesser risk right? If he is starting next year that means we put up with him another 2 years. So there is no chance in hell hes a "bust" right? So thats 2 years+ 3 years to get a legitimate Qb in here. 5 years to me.
     

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