Redskins trade 3 first round picks to rams for 2nd overall

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  1. Barcs

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    Are you intionally trying to put me on a murderous rampage? Come on. Think about the children before making a post like that :)
     
  2. Yisman

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    Redskins get fleeced again.
     
  3. jilozzo

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    yeah i am with u me thinks the skins got burned a bit.

    the top spots are now more valuable with the new CBA/salary structure.

    and the rams dont mind having more than one 1st rounder - it wont kill u financially and they have the flexibility to leverage the extra pick year after year.

    nice - dare i say it - i would almost sign up for a 4-12 year if it meant someone offering me a extra first rounders for the next couple years.
     
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    It's going to be funny if one or both of the future firsts ends up being another top 10 pick. That's a distinct possibility.
     
  5. JetBlue

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    Maybe I am in the minority, but RG3 seems like he has everything needed to be an elite QB. and if he turns out to be, this is a steal for the Redskins.

    there isn't an elite QB to have played in the NFL not worth 3 firsts and a second, so the trade can't be considered a bad trade until after we see RG3.
     
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    how many elite scrambling qbs are there ? Scrambling QBs have an incredibly high bust rate, which is why I dont think this was a great move.

    Look at the top 20 qbs in the nfl last year


    Cam Newton #10 (actually a pretty impressive year)
    Josh Freeman #13 (more ints than tds)
    Vick # 17 (actually ranked lower than Sanchez, enuf said)



    If youre gonna go all in for a QB at least get a pocket QB who is gonna stay healthy and doesn't have to worry about losing his legs.

    3 1st anda 2nd for Luck sure why not.

    3 1st anda 2nd for a guy who the odds are stacked against, well good luck with that
     
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    You don't want to sound racist and then your entire post is about the race of three quarterbacks? Good luck with that. And posting the same stuff in a new post that just so happens to remove the racial stuff doesn't exactly help matters.
     
  9. dcm1602

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    lol I was triyng to edit the previous post, guess somehow it got duped

    The fact is I truly dont give two shits what color a qb is, its just the way it is that the overwhelming majority of successful qbs happen to be white pocket passers.

    And while athletic/black/scrambling qbs are exciting in college, not many tend to stick @ the nfl level too well.

    I dont care what the reason is that it works out that way nor am i interested in finding out why, but simply if im mortgaging my entire teams future on a qb, and scrambling qbs don't translate well to the nfl, then id sure as shit be pissed off with the decision.


    And to be fair its not just black scrambling qbs that suck, white ones suck too (see Tim Tebow). It just so happens that more black qbs tend to be scramblers than white ones
     
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    You should've just said, I don't believe there should be black Qb's!!!! har har.
     
  11. JetBlue

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    Every successful QB in the league is essentially an exception considering the majority of highly drafted college QB's fail.

    so, once you establish that being successful in the NFL is an exception not a rule, you can't dismiss his potential for success as a scrambling QB being unreasonable simply because he would be an exception.

    the guy looks fantastic and is worth taking a risk on. his style of play is irrelevant.
     
  12. DisgruntledLionFan

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    Too bad Rodgers isn't black, because then he'd be up there with the elite scrambling QBs.

    And this is a prison rape type of deal.
     
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    Absolutely that true that being a great qb is the exception to the rule.

    But being a great scrambling qb is like being an exception to the rule twice.

    Being a great qb is like winning the lottery. Being a great scrambling QB is like winning the lottery, twice.

    Its just so much more rare, that imo the risk is far greater.

    And of course style of play is relevant, theres a reason why Donovan McNabb went to shit in his early 30s, while guys like Brady and Favre were/will be able to play at an elite level until 40ish.

    And why Mcnabb was constantly injured during his career, while pocket QBs are less frequently hurt
     
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    Rodgers is a qb that can scramble, not a scrambling QB.

    Theres a reason that he had 250~ rushing yards While Cam Newton had 750 +
     
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    Oh.

    Why is Freeman and his ~240 yards rushing on your list, then?
     
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    Freeman was seen as a 6'6 250 athletic beast coming out of college.

    And 2 years ago he scrambled alot, last year he was trying to be more of a pocket passer instead of forcing throws into coverage (which he did plenty of last year)

    I think the book on Freeman is still open, but he definitely scrambles much better than Rodgers.

    Fortunately for Rodgers is hes a much better passer, which means defenses have to focus on his pass more which lets him pull of those huge runs (usually because nobody is in the area)
     
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    Matter of fact I think this is the most valid comparison.

    Freeman is more like Big Ben

    Rodgers is more like Brady pre knee injury
     
  18. DisgruntledLionFan

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    You're kidding, right?
     
  19. Jake

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    Redskins lose $36m in cap space for front loading contracts during uncapped year per Schefter. They can spread the damage over 2012/2013 seasons. Cowboys lose $10m. Wow.
     
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    2 years ago, freeman rushed for 364 yards on 68 attempts, a 5.4 ypc.
    2 years ago, rodgers rushed for 356 yards on 64 attempts, a 5.6 ypc.

    really? much better?
     

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