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  1. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Basically, Sanchez got 2.5 million, the Jets got him for 5 years now. Before he was only signed for 2 more years, so they added 3 years for 2.5 million.
    Now by doing this, they cleared up about 6 million in cap space this year.

    Then since Sanchez's guaranteed is tied into 2012-2013 and 2013-2014 seasons he is here for 2 years at least. He was already locked in for 2012-2013 unless you really thought with no cap space the Jets were getting Manning. So for 2.5 million, the Jets cleared 6 million of cap space and added Sanchez for one year.

    Now the next 3 years following this, Sanchez has very little cap hit. If he does not improve, he can be cut with very little cap hit. If he does improve, the Jets have a good/great QB for cheap.
     
  2. NYDeadEye

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    Thank you for saving me the trouble of spelling this out.
     
  3. Phear

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    Sanchez has improved every year, while the improvement may not be as fast as most would like, the evidence is there. So you're wrong on that point. The deal is basically a win/win for the jets, despite how you and others feel about him, Sanchez was going to be our starter this year. We have more money this year to sign FA's. Sanchez will have 2 years to prove he deserves the job, if he sucks after 2013 he can be cut without hurting our cap much at all. I believe we've seen more playoff appearances under Johnson than any other owner. So I'm not sure why you're skeptical.
     
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    I think we do need to cut him some slack. Yes i agree hes not a game changer, but he has improved every year the run game didnt help him much this year and he was getting killed in the pocket. with a healthy oline coming nxt season and a new running attack i think he can make some huge strides. hes got alot of ability. 3 years is nothing hes got alot of growing and learning to do.
     
  5. FlaJet

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    championjets69:

    So here are U options.

    Go sit in a corner & cry
    Moan & groan cause there is nothing U can do to change it
    Hope that he turns into the next Tom Brady even though you think that is not possible with Sporano as his OC
    Hope that he we get a solid OL so he will have the time necessary for him to make that snap decision to chuck the rock






    Well said..
     
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    The extension was needed in order to get the cap space this year since you spread signing bonus money out over the length of the deal which is now 5 years. Spreading it over two years gets you nothing. That is why long term deals get restructured NOT short term deals hence the extension. With 14.25 MIL guaranted in salary due this year which you have to pay this year anyway they took 8MIL of guaranteed salary and converted into a signing bonus. That is 1.6MIL over 5 years amortized. There is no benefit to Sanchez to push guaranteed money this year into next year. Where it benefits the team is that if you want to cut him after 2013 all you have left is 4.8MIL left in signing bonus money to pay him. If they cut him and spread the hit over two years that's 2.4 MIL per year in 2014 and 2015 they would owe him. However, you don't have to pay his salary of 8.25MIL and 10.75MIL in those years so that gets you a net cap savings.

    It is also easier to trade him after this year if the Jets decide to do so. It would cost the Jets more against the cap to do so but the acquiring team would only be obligated to pay his salary of 8.25MIL as the Jets would be obligated for the signing bonus portion only. For an experienced NFL QB that isn't a ton of money and the acquiring team would inherit those team friendly option years as well which would make him more attractive to an acquiring team
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    In three straight losses to close the season when even mediocre Qb play would have gotten the Jets into the playoffs, Sanchez crapped the bed with some of hte most horrendous Qb play we have seen in some time. Improvement??? He flat out sucked.

    And the Jets reward him with a contract extension and more guaranteed money.

    Qb's need five years to prove they deserve the job? Should that have applied to Ryan Leaf? Akili Smith?

    As for Johnson, he bought the team when it was doing far better than average for this franchise. The Jets benefitted hugely when Parcells helped bring Curtis Martin, now a HOF'er, to the team. Yes, they have playoff appearances, but also seasons of outright suckage, and right now are coming off an 8-8 season after several questionable FO moves and the third year of your hero's tenure here. BFD.

    I am sure you are happy, though.
     
  8. Barcs

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    That crap is irrelevant. Sanchez got injured because of poor Oline play before those 3 games. We could have had several people just play slightly better and we could have made it. I mean seriously, how many people on offense had better seasons in 2011 than 2010. Sanchez is the only one I can think of that actually improved most of his stats, out of everyone.
     
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  9. BomberJet

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    The strangest move in franchise history is when the Jets sent their two first-round picks, 13th and 20th overall, to San Francisco for the 49ers' second pick, which they used to selected Texas WR Johnny "Lam" Jones.

    That one move is hard to beat.
     
  10. Big Blocker

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    A pinched nerve and you guys act like he's playing with his right arm hanging by threads. It's not that big of a deal.

    If you don't think Sanchez's play was the single biggest reason why the Jets ended the season with three straight losses, I don't know what to say other than that you must not have watched those games.

    More to the point, how does his being injured leading to is lousy play add up to mean he showed "improvement"? He sucked, whatever the reasons for it.
     
  11. JetsUK

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    even nfl.com has now got up to speed on this deal:

    haters will hate the final sentence lol

     
  12. Johnny English

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    I am astonished, and slightly disappointed, that the OP has been shown the courtesy of as many responses to his post as he has.
     
  13. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Thread needz moar cat pictures
     
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    LogeSection2RowJ Well-Known Member

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    Getting sick of all this. We all supported Sanchez heartily before this season. His extension not only added cap room, it give him some extra support after he spent the past three weeks hearing how we were going after Peyton.

    Work on the rest of the roster and Sanchez will be more than adequate to get where we want to go. We were headed that way, before this past season that is.
     
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    Sanchez right now is the best QB in the division not married to a swimsuit model.

    And that's playing in an offense that over the course of 6 years takes 10 points of the QBR of the guy running the system.

    We're getting him at a BARGAIN for the position. And for a guy with his production in big spots.

    The problem with Sanchez has never been his ability to produce in a big spot, it's been his inconsistency, and that is the product of his former boss.
     
  16. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    true dat, but the mods frown on 'DIAF Faggot'....


    Would cut down on the insanity :wink:
     
  17. RevisIsland18

    RevisIsland18 Well-Known Member

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    well said sir, well said!
     
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    Thanks for the detailed explanation...
     
  19. Phear

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    I am happy that our FO isn't giving up on a QB after only 3 seasons who's shown promise. So now you've reached a new level of stupid, Ryan leaf Threw for 14 TDs and 36 INTs in 3 years. If Sanchez was anything like that do you honestly believe he would still be on this team? Why is it so hard for you to comprehend that Sanchez was only part of a much bigger problem? Our entire offense sucked, for you to continually put all the blame on Sanchez is trollish at best. Get a clue.
     
  20. Big Blocker

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    If I did put all the blame on Sanchez, I would criticize myself. Perhaps you suck at reading as bad as you do at "understanding" football. I said his poor play was the biggest (meaning most important) reason the Jets did not make the playoffs. I didn't say only reason.

    And the entire offense did not suck. This is what I find most annoying about Sanchez Fans such as yourself. You throw the whole rest of the team under the bus to make up for his poor play. Mangold is perhaps the best center in the league. I know he was hurt, but to say he sucked, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Ferguson had an off year, but he made the Pro Bowl again, as Moore did as an alternate. I am not a huge Greene fan, but he rolled up good yardage last year. Kerley is the brightest prospect on the club. Holmes was not included in the O enough, but he definitely contributed and does not suck. I can go on.

    Slauson may be mediocre, and Hunter was the weakest starter on the team, and Burress likely will not be back, but that does not add up to the whole O sucking. Give that kind of anti-Jet team attitude a break, I suggest.
     
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