O-line question...

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  1. Jets n Boys

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    I think We'll be just fine with what RBs we have. Tebow will take a lot of snaps away from the RBs. Shonn Greene can carry 15+ times a game as he showed that last year. Thats all that's needed. He's not too bad catching the ball either. If we draft an RB, I hope he has great hands. The RB situation can be addressed later in the draft. To me, OLB and FS is a priority and should be addressed in the first two rounds. Depending on what we think about Edwards, I wouldn't mind taking a shot at a WR in the third round. If no WR, then RT or ILB in the third. After that, you have a 5th and a bunch of 6ths and 7ths where we can draft a lot of depth, hoping about three of them would work out and remain Jets for a few years.
     
  2. Sandman

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    I thought the whole point was that Sporano was going to change the way the Offensive line operates and so play more to their individual strengths and with a less complicated blocking system cut out the mistakes and pressures we give up.

    This then would allow us to bring in Vlad and make our Current O-line less sucky!
     
  3. Don

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    That is the plan I heard too..all we can do is hope Ducasse has learned how to block somehow.
     
  4. RevisIsland18

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    i dont think upshaw will be there for the 16th pick
     
  5. displacedfan

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    I think one of the posters here followed Ducasse closely during the season, and most of the time Ducasse can block, but when he missed it was not because he was beat, it was because he didn't know who to block.

    I don't remember the thread it was in either, but I think one of the mods did the research. Please correct me if I am wrong.
     
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    Dave DeCastro has the potential to be a Pro Bowl RG for the next decade. He's considered the best OG prospect in about a generation, that's how good he is. It's common to have collegiate OTs make excellent pro OGs (Robert Gallery being a noteable example) just as it's common for collegiate LTs to move to RT in the pros. It's extremely rare that an excellent collegiate OG moves to the OT spot in the pros. It just doesn't work very well because of the demands the pros put on their OTs. Moving DeCastro to RT where he would be, at best, adequate would be a waste of his talent.
     
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    weve got the Lumpiest line in the NFL......thank god VLAD has half of them
     
  8. Big Blocker

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    The Jets may even be able to sign someone else's camp cut and upgrade the RT position.
     
  9. Like it or not the Jets are gonna give Ducasse a shot to win the starting RT job. He is physically imposing and has great upside, but struggles mentally. Entering his 3rd year and finally having the benefit of a full offseason, logic says he should take the next step and become the starter. I don't believe Hunter has any chance of being the opening day RT. He's here as a back-up swing tackle..which is a role he fills well.

    The problem w/ all the Tackles on the open market is that they are all aged veterans with limited long term potential and either A. want too much money or B. Want a guaranteed starting position which their production does not justify at this stage. The Tackles left out there at this point are all TC type signings after a major injury or major disappointment. If Ducasse can't handle RT, the Jets will likely sign someone in August.

    The bigger issue along the OL is truthfully the guard position.The Jets 2 starting guards are entering final years of their contracts and both could be at a cross roads. Moore is still a good player but his play has depleted a bit from where it was 2 years ago. He will not be re-signed after this season. Meanwhile Slauson is coming off surgery & is now being asked to play in a blocking scheme he likely hasn't played since high school. He's played in Callahan's ZBS since college onward. Does he make the switch to man-up blocking? Who knows.

    Depth is sporadic at best. The one returning back-up is Caleb Schaluderoff who is a young developmental guy that again, maybe a better fit for the ZBS.

    If the jets are gonna address the OL early, I'm willing to bet it will be with somone who primarily plays guard.
     
  10. ConcordeChops

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    I hope you are right but we were all saying OLB in the 1st before the '10 and '11 draft and we never got one.

    Don't be surprised to see someone like Floyd taken at#16 if he truly is "BPA". I'm not sure if the FO are as high on OLB's as the TGG draftniks.
     
  11. Jets83

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    Thats a good outlook, i agree with you, but the only real good safties in this draft are Barron and Harrison Smith and i dont think Barron should be taken 1st round we have many needs more important and Smith will be gone by time we pick in the 2nd. Plus we still COULD bring Jimmy back. But i do agree. We do have tons of depth picks this year for wr's rb's and i can gurantee we will draft a corner with losing Quice and not bringing back Strickland.
     
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    I do with Ingram, Brockers, Poe, Coples likely going before him i think he will be available and even if hes not Perry will be.
     
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    BTW Demetrius Bell is a FA right now, and hes prob a better fit then Hunter, plus what do you guys think of Cedric Benson???
     
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    i think with a running based O vlad will do well......he IS a descent run blocker..hes flattened a few pretty good....maybe this whole thing is starting to make sense
     
  15. Don

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    I also believe he was spun around like a turnstile most of the time. DL had a field day faking him out of his shoes so you might be right that he can block but he needs to learn positioning.
     
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    Let me get that straight. You suggest the Jets should draft a running back in the second round, then agree that we shouldn't, then go on to say that we probably should?
     
  17. displacedfan

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    Yeah I wish I could find the post, but I can't remember who made it and when. Ducasse did play limited snaps as a TE this year, right? I know he wasn't as bad as Hunter or Mulligan because I never yelled his name while watching the Jets play.

    I think the main blocking will help him. I think the best way to put his failures would be positioning as you said. When he could get a guy square on he would drive him off the line, but he struggled getting into proper position. Hopefully that can be fixed by a full offseason and new scheme
     
  18. Jets83

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    Lol no, im saying i agree it may not be the best but depending on whose avaiable if Martin is the best available we should take him, and when i say we have tons of depth picks im saying in the 5th and 6th rounds we have tons of later picks to pick up a RB. If theres not a solid OT in the 2nd round and Martin is sitting there we should take him.
     
  19. Royce Parker

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    Maybe it's just the stupid optimist in me, but I just have a feeling that Vlad is going to click this year. That said, I really hope they go Oline in Rd 1 or 2, 3 at the very latest. IMO it's a much more important need than WR and at least as important as OLB/FS. We all saw what happened last season when the Oline got discombobulated...
     
  20. ukjetsfan

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    I've got you, and I've always felt that getting the best available talent is the way to go, so I agree with you there.

    I just worry about the three major holes we currently have (although if the new o-line blocking scheme helps that might take care of one of them).
     

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