Yeah. What's good for the goose should be good for the gander. I don't completely agree on the whole idea though that we should be rooting for players to get deals that are bad for the team. I really think the answer for the Jets is to get Darrelle Revis under a long-term contract that is affordable and allows them to compete or to find a way to move him for some value so the team can build the roster in a more conventional way. If the NFL goes full-Arena football mode in a few years then a CB like Darrelle Revis might well be one of the most valuable players in the NFL. As it is he's not in the top 20 and probably not in the top 50. Not because he's not great at what he does, because he is, but because what he does is not great in the overall scheme of things.
How about the TV interview where he said he could sit out come training camp and how he doesn't care how he looks.
You can say that another several hundred times and it will be no more true than it ever was, which is not at all. It's a passing league. Revis takes out the opponent's top passing target in man coverage. Often that player is the most talented skill position player on the opponent's roster. He allows the Jets to use an extra player elsewhere on the D.
Since the Jets drafted Darrelle Revis they are 41-39. You're the one who doesn't understand. If Darrelle Revis had the impact that you think he does the Jets would be a much better team given that he is by far the best CB in the game. Think about it. The Oakland Raiders were terrible for nearly a decade in which they had both the best kicker and punters in the game. How could that be? How could that be? How could that be? Oh yeah, for a good part of that time they had the best CB in the game too. Use your brain.
judging a single players (non-qb) impact strictly based on W/L is idiotic. Jared Allen had 22 sacks last year, the Vikings went a whopping 6-10. I dare you to argue that Allen wasn't the most productive pass rusher in the league in 2011. I also dare you to argue that pass rusher isn't an extremely valuable position on the field. Having the best player at any position is a serious asset to your team. However, they can not single handedly win games for their team unless they are a QB. They need help from the other members of the teams to win games. By the way, Revis has helped the Jets win 4 PO games (you know those 4 that the defense carried our useless QB to winning), take him away, do you think we beat the Bengals or the Chargers in 09? what about the Patriots in 2010? Who shut Reggie fucking Wayne down in the playoffs? what did he have 4 receptions in 2 games vs Revis? Have the Jets won a SB with Revis? No they havent, but they sure as hell got a lot closer than they would have without him.
Lol are you serious. So now we are judging all players by wins and losses. Calvin Johnson was on losing teams up until this season but I guess this is the first year he was any good. Jared Allen had over 20 sacks but obviously he is not that big of an impact player since the Vikings only won 6 games. Get a clue man.
Beat me to it, and actually you made some good points I would not have thought to make. Like the Jared Allen point. Excellent. If having a great pass rusher is more important than a shut down CB, then how come the Jets record is better than the Vikes? Oh yea, it's a team sport. Duh. Brad often makes good points, but his perseveration on this Revis hating jag is tiresome and goes nowhere. He talks about how the Jets have not won big games against quality Qb's. Well, they have. When this is pointed out to him, he changes it up to talk about overall won loss record. As if that can be laid on a single player. Brad knows that Revis was a great pick by the Jet FO, but there have been several stinkers, too. Revis is supposed to make up for those? Of course not. The simple fact is the Jet D would be much worse without Revis. Whether Cro stays on the number 2 wideout or goes over to 1, they cannot count on Wilson playing man against the other, meaning a safety will have to help Wilson over the top. Now 8 players will have to cover the rest of the field instead of nine. Simple arithmetic.
has anybody ever seen a post from Br4dw4ySux in which he doesn't express his hatred for everything about the New York Jets? I haven't seen one and won't be seeing any more of his works of genius now that I've added him to the SOJF section of my ignore list
He is just so angry based on the thought he might hold out again that it is blinding his ability to accurately judge his impact on the field. If you asked Rex to pick Revis or the best pass rusher in the game (based on production, Jared Allen was a year ago) I would be curious to see who he would pick in a vacuum. Obviously in public he would pick Revis because he is the guy on his team. But we don't have the best pass rusher, we have the best CB, and we should be extremely fucking happy about it. Instead people are bitching because of the thought Revis might holdout again. Revis is just being smart. By saying maybe he won't show up (regardless of his actual intentions), the Jets might fold and open negotiations. If he says he will show up, the Jets won't ever open up negotiations this year. I expect about a 0.01% chance of a Revis holdout this year. If he gets through this year healthy and continues on his HOF pace, he will get a serious mega-deal after this year, especially if we actually (god willing) win a super bowl with him as a key cog.
the point is that no CB wins the game by himself and it might not be the best strategy to spend so much of the cap on one to the point where you can't fit up the rest of your team properly. Nothing to do with hate for Revis, just recognition that you have to allocate scarce resources wisely, and $12 million for a CB just isn't wise.
As a Jets fan I for one am sick of the Revis contract bullshit. He's guaranteed to make 13 million for two more years and we front loaded a lot of money to him his first two years. If he can't hack it for 2 more years and renegotiate then screw him. Trade him.
I want to be a Jet for the rest of my career, and that will happen so long as Miky keeps shoveling large sums of money my way every couple of years. Otherwise, I will leave.
He's a smart poster you have to give him that, I'm guessing he doesn't like the direction the Jets are going right now - but that doesn't make him a SOJF If the Jets can lock Revis down for 10 Million per than you have to do it, he's the best at his position - and he could be the best corner to ever play the game in a pass-happy league. The Jets want to lock him down, but they just can't this year. Next off-season if we have a successful season, then no doubt we'll sign him after Tanny cuts the trim around this roster.
As much talent as Revis has, his attitude can't help the lockerroom. This drama twice in three years is too much to deal with.
Bad for the locker room?! whats bad for the locker room is what you saw last year...players taking shots at other teammates...thats bad for the locker room...blaming individuals instead of the team is bad for the locker room, the only thing Revis has done that was bad for this team was his hold out which caused him injury and him missing 4 games, that hurt the team. The man is not one of the best cb's in the league, he is THE BEST in the league and should be taken care of...now do i think he has an arguement this year for a new contract? no. But obveously neither does he because he is at mini camp and will be at training camp. He has publicly said that he is going to be on the field this year, but at some point wants to sit down with mike woody and rex to discuss a new deal. When next year comes, if he played like he has his whole career he should get a monster deal. Revis is a key cog to this team and we wouldnt have one of the top 5 defenses in the league for the past 3 years if it werent for him. People need to wake up and realise this guy deserves the money and will get the money when the time is right, the media is gonna continue to stir this cup of coolaid...you just keep drinkin it.
