http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/e...-ineffectiveness-prompt-jets-to-get-tim-tebow I have to agree with a lot of what is said about Greene here. He's never going to be a dynamic, game breaking back. He can pick up 4 yards at a clip putting his head down but you rarely see him break long gains or make yards himself. Maybe we can find someone in the scrap pile with a little wiggle and another gear.
i think at this point mcknight is our best chance at a home run threat.i don't see us picking up another rb unless the young guys don't show anything in t.c
Wow - for some reason I completely forgot about him. I like McKnight too - he just needs to quit fumbling - even though that was mostly on ST's, it's hard to trust him with the rock.
true,but that can be coached.ideally i would love to see mcknight grab the starting role and greene become the closer ala bettis' last year. greene is perfect for running out the clock when the defense is starting to tire
I cant believe we dont have scouts that can find a diamond in the rough. There are boys chasing rabbits down in Florida that could probably come in and be more effective than Greene. I like him as a complimentary back to a starter(e.g. Curtis Martin) but he doesnt have the consistant vision to be a starter, and he gets hurt too often.
I think of Greene as a less-effective Lamont Jordan. Flashes of greatness, but not enough consistency to be more than good. Both got starting opportunities, and Jordan didn't last more than a year or two as a starter, and it appears Greene is headed down the same path, barring a ridiculous contract season explosion for him.
Greene reminds me a lot of Tavian Banks, another mid-sized back who came out of Iowa in the late 90's. Banks used to kill the Wolverines by breaking runs at the line of scrimmage and then out-running the safeties down the field from there. When he caught the Wolverines all up close to the line of scrimmage he was a scary back. He had the same style Greene has of running upright and then putting his shoulder down at the point of contact. When he was one-on-one good things happened but he couldn't make people miss unless he ran over them so a couple of guys would always be able to dog him down if they were in position. He had a short NFL career because he couldn't keep his knees and ribs healthy in the bigger, faster world of the NFL.
That sentence pretty much nails it. Greene is not good and making defenders miss or @ breaking tackles.
I don't understand how he is supposed to be a power back in terms of size yet can't break tackles. Anybody have ideas on why this is?
I was honestly quite dissapointed when they let Leon Washington go. Maybe I'm wrong since when I watches him play for the Jets in 2006 as his rookie year I believe. I didn't know much but her showed promise. He had plenty if speed, very quick, aware, and was great out the backfield as a receiver. He had good hsnds. In 2007 he put up good/solid numbers, and 2008 he was phenomenal in my opinion. I mean he made the pro bowl in 2008. Only reason I can see the jets letting him go was in 2009 when he got injured. Fracturing his tibula and missing the rest of the season, along with Thomas Jones having a solid season and taking snaps away from Washington the first 6 weeks before the injury def limited the repeat of his 2008 production. He was also one of the best ST players that we had. His kick returns were very good and he always picked up good yardage, he was slippery, fit thru tight gaps, and def had a good set of after burners on him in the open field. I think if we kept Washington, in combination with Greene, we would have been a much more complete team when it came to the running game. And as much as I hate the Tebow move, not Tim himself, but the media crap that came with it, I think that he will make a big impact on our running game, and our offense will be better overall because of him and the threat thatll be presented to opposing team with the options we have available. I'm all for Tebow being a Jet, but strictly as a HB.
While it would be very nice if McKnight became a more dependable option at RB, since I am convinced Greene cannot be a dependable every down back and will require substantial help, there is no assurance McKnight will develop as required. Right now he looks to be merely another of Tanny's recent picks who has not shown much. As for Tebow, what makes anyone think he can make the effective transition from option Qb to an RB?
Play the young guys and tebow in the first half. Feed the back who is getting 4+ yds per carry. In the second half pound Greene. Greene kills defenses late in games and late in season. I am still a BIG fan of Greene.
If we can keep all 3 of those guys ( Tebow, Greene, McKnight ) all game,.. and or Gannaway / Powel turn into anything serviceable,.. That's a serious stable. I could see any 3 of those 'backs' getting 10-20 touches a game at HB, depending who's hot. Tebow / Greene are our ground and pound and it will be McKnights job to lose as the change of pace. Green - Starter - 20-25 touches ( HB - Jets have a ridiculous record when Greene gets 20+ carries ) McKnight - Scat - 10-15 touches ( option, wr, HB2 ) Tebow - 10-15 ( option, wildcat, pure HB ) 50 Touches a game with Greene running downhill at defenses in the 4th is going to be fun to watch. One thing that we're missing this year ( again unless someone steps up ) is a proven 3rd down HB. Greene has never been stellar in pass protect, and has improved his catching but we need better from our guy we expect to make plays on third down. I don't know how I feel about that being tebow with Blitzers getting the chance to knock up one of our big play makers on a regular basis.
I can't put much stock in to this article. It starts off by saying Mark regressed. More yards, more passing AND rushing TDs, higher completion percentage, higher QB rating. Three more ints as well though, but regressed? No. Improved? Negligible. We took away his best deep threat and provided him with tired, 34 year old legs in Plaxico "Cheddar Bob" Burress, who by the way is still looking for a job.
This is a fair assessment. When I look at Greene, I see the Jets version of BJGE or for those who go back a ways, Antwain Smith. A guy who will run hard, get what's there, BUT no more, and rarely loses yardage. He's a guy who usually makes the 3rd and 2's and puts the ball in the endzone in tough GL situations. Its good have a guy like this on your roster and you fill an important role for your team The problem arises with what you have backing him up. I fail to see what so many Jet fans are comfortable with Joe McKnight as your primary 3rd down/change of pace RB. What part of 3.1 ypc don't you guys understand. That is simply a HORRIBLE stat, especially when you consider the fact that most of the time he's in there the defense is expecting a pass And then there's Tim Tebow. Again I fail to see why some Jet fans think that Tebow can be an effective runner outside the QB position. While he is a good runner as a QB, the skill set to be a good runner from FB or HB position is vastly different. Plus its something he's NEVER done before. There is a better chance that Tebow is the answer for the Jets QB situation, than he is for the Jets RB situation. Ganaway and Powell are just shots in the dark given one's a rookie and another wasn't good enough to make many game day rosters. though I think Ganaway is an interesting prospect that I like, he's still a blank slate at this point. BOTTOM LINE - You never know how things will turn out, and great RBs can come from all over the draft. Some like Cedric Benson can take years before they finally "get it",. some like Adrian Foster can come from out of the UDFA blue and make an immediate impact. So its not impossible that the Jets Running Game will be just fine with this group. But its not something that as a Jet fan I would be comfortable with at this stage of the off season. ESPECIALLY since the running game is going to be the key factor in the success of the offense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUymUOl7rgc I agree with most of your points, But Tebow has bulked up to about 250, The only reason I can think of is that they plan on using him a lot more with the ball in his hands. Find me another 6'3" 250lbs QB. Then find me RBs that have the same #s. Much easier for the latter, Not saying it's a cut and clean position switch. I'm just saying that's where my thoughts about him being an effective runner, The guy knows what to do with the ball in his hands. You can't deny that. It's when he throws it that things falter. ( edit: http://www.rantsports.com/redzoneta...bulking-up-jets-wanted-him-to-gain-10-pounds/ Sorry,. They've asked him to up to that weight, I can't speak towards the progress as I haven't seen actual #s, But the team asking him to get to that weight still supports my argument )
