Santonio Holmes on the two QB system

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  1. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    I think Tebow can help us win; provided his role is more in line with Brad Smith's, than as an actual 1b quarterback. We need Mark Sanchez to take his play to the next level and become a reliable leader for our offense. That's the only way we become a playoff threat again.
     
  2. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Well, not to digress a bit here, but did you actually see any of Sanchez's post game pressers? Yikes. And there were one or two times there I thought the men in the white coats were going to take Rex away. Revis is a soft spoken guy, but imo he can be more critical than Holmes.

    Ftr I was not specifically talking about you in the post you quoted.
     
  3. laxin

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    I feel like responding to this...

    Holmes is a leader. Why do you think he got the captain title? For shits and giggles? No. The guy taught all the young guys, took them under his wing (see hard knocks and Joe McKnight) and tried to pass on the knowledge he knows from his veteran experience.

    Honestly, everybody just loves to hate the guy. He doesnt really deserve any of it.

    I mean fricken Dez Bryan hit his own mother in the face to where she thought he was gonna kill her, and Tone is still hated more than Dez Bryant...

    What he did do was give his nod to Sanchez and express confidence in him, saying even if he has a few mistakes, I, along with all my other teammates and fans shud still stick behind Sanchez because he is our guy.

    He also stated the truth that a 2 QB system (he even explained it- where they share playing time and change frequently) can not work in the NFL. Its not going against what Sporano and Rex want. Tebow is a wildcat QB, similar to Brad Smith, and will be a FOOTBALL player.

    Everybody just loves to hate on him. He said nothing wrong. He is only “controvertial” because the media and everybody makes him out to be that way.
     
  4. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Spot on.

    There are many reasons to criticize Holmes, this interview is not one of them.
     
  5. tanknyc

    tanknyc Active Member

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    Didnt Holmes have his best Seasons with a 2 QB system? Sanchez and Brad Smith.... Holmes is a cancer and bitches and complains all the time the season aint even started and he comes to OTA's out of shape like yall are pushing me to hard. Now this!!! I dont see it getting any better with him. Last year correct me if Im wrong but didnt alot of balls hit Holmes dead smack in the hands and he dropped them? Did anybody jump all over him?
     
  6. tanknyc

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    Tomlinson said watch out for Holmes he is a problem and Ill stand by the Future HOFer
     
  7. Burnz

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    Alot of them early passes( Lack of OL ) and were behind him. I.E Eagles game he had the ball stripped 2 times in a row i believe. Holmes needs the ball regardless you can't be scared of his one bad year of ball security

    Are you kidding me? The guy isn't in the locker 1 anymore. 2 The guy wants to make his paychecks from BSPN so he has to outlash on the Jets its the cool thing to do in the sports world
     
  8. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    here's another article on what Holmes had to say during that interview, this time about Sparano and the offense...

    Santonio Holmes Excited About Jets OC Tony Sparano
    CULVER CITY, Calif. -- It's unlikely Santonio Holmes shed a tear when the New York Jets parted with offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer in January.

    Holmes surely held Schottenheimer at least partly accountable for his career-worst production in 2011. And let's not forget Schottenheimer benched Holmes in that "one game" against the Miami Dolphins.

    Holmes said he's excited about the arrival of Tony Sparano, who replaces Schottenheimer after nearly four seasons as head coach of the Dolphins.

    "He wants to see everybody on the same page and he brings the head-coaching mentality to the offensive side of the ball, which is something very different," Holmes said on Monday in an interview with Around The League. "Unless you've experienced it and know what it's like to have a head coach as a coordinator, it's hard to explain."

    I asked if he could at least attempt to articulate the difference. Holmes initially backed off at that point, saying he doesn't know how Sparano will be different from Schottenheimer because Sparano hasn't called a play yet. Then he continued.

    "It makes things a lot easier. It makes communication easier. Makes the play-calling easier," he said. "Players see things differently, because a head coach has to deal with offense, defense, special teams. But when you only have one guy who deals with a group of guys, now you see the difference in how they react to situations."

    This isn't an attack on Schottenheimer, but it's not hard to read between the lines, either.
     
  9. tanknyc

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    Nah Tomlinson is speaking the truth... What does he have to gain from calling out one guy? If anything he would of threw the whole team under the bus. Why do people feel the need to go to bat for Holmes. The object should be for us to get to the AFC Championship game and find a way to win to make it to the Superbowl. Not have to deal with a Whiney WR who had 51 Catches last year and only went over 1000 once in his career. Stay in his place is what he should do and worry about team first. BTW Holmes was targeted 101 times to his 51 catches so he gets the looks
     
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  10. tanknyc

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    Holmes said he doesnt like the fact that the starting QB gets tooken out and messes up his tempo and rhythm. Well that may be very true but object of a Wr is to get open and the Qb has no choice but to hit you with the ball. Stop Complaining and just play
     
  11. laxin

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    Very intelligent and great post!!!!!!

    /sarcasm
     
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  12. srqman1

    srqman1 Tired of BS

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    You don't think the defense alone can do it?
     
  13. jb1095

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    What company line? This isn't the New England Patriots we are talking about. He is a member of the Jets, the loud, boisterous, outspoken, and often controversial NFL team of the AFC East.

    Clearly the FO has little faith in Sanchez, but I do not think they brought in Tebow to take his job, Tebow just isn't that good, however, Rex wants a ground and pound running game, so I suspect we will see Tebow often. If the defense lines up with an obvious run D, than Tebow can air it out, or potentially run it wherever he sees a hole, where as Sanchez will stare down his targets until all the linebackers and all the secondary run to his guy, then he will throw it out.

    I give it to week 4 before Tebow is taking more snaps than Sanchez.
     
  14. displacedfan

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    Yeah, if you are a fan of whatever Rex says, this is what Rex allows. He allows players to speak their mind.

    I still don't see what is so bad about the comments.
     
  15. 101GangGreen101

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    There's a difference between a two QB system and Brad Smith / Tebow running the wildcat.

    Typically in a 2 QB system quarterbacks get at least a full drive to show if they can move down the football field. Tebow would have to be in the game for an extended period of time for it to be an actual two quarterback system.
     
  16. deerow84

    deerow84 Well-Known Member

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    Any other player I would be okay with speaking their mind at this point but with all the crap surrounding him he should do what you're saying here. If he proves himself to be valuable again and mid-season he wants to speak his mind about it, sure, but not now.
     
  17. Big Blocker

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    Do you even read other posts on this thread? I should perhaps follow your lead and not read any of yours. What a worthless piece of garbage of a post.

    "NOW THIS!"

    Now what, exactly? What did he say is wrong?

    You will not come up with a single thing.

    Finally we have reached the throw in the towel point on the off season. Perhaps the heat has something to do with it, but your post jumps the shark.
     
  18. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    The point you and others seem to be missing is the Jets want Holmes to be a spokesman.

    You think just any player can get out there in post game pressers?

    Have you ever once heard of any qualified source saying the Jets, anyone in the JEt organization, does not want Holmes talking to the media? Once, ever?

    And btw what is the party line that Holmes contradicted?

    This irrational Holmes hatred is making me convinced that a sizeable portion of the Jet fanbase have lost their minds.
     
  19. RochesterJet

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    re-read my post...I said I have not problem with what Holmes said in this artical. Do I think the media has a hard on for Tone? YES; and I understand why they do. The guy has yet to step up and say "I was wrong the way I handled last year". If he did that I would be the farm, stories like this arnt spun like the media is spinning them. But this is something Santonio will never do, he will never show humility, or step up and take accountability for his actions. THIS is the real issue and the reason I questioned the C on his chest last year and him being the front man for the Jets pressers. If this is what the Jets want; then this is what they are getting. A fucking circus tent with every artical...
     
  20. tanknyc

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    Stop being a Douche Bag.... We are here to talk football and a debate arises here and there but to toss around insults shows your maturity level. If you didnt like the post scroll past or just say what you thought might of been wrong
     

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