Caught this snippet in the most recent Cimini write up from the scrimmage: To roughly translate, they ran a defense that is specifically vulnerable to a QB scrambling for yardage, and taking away open throws. I know Tebow looked shaky (as pretty much always), but can anybody that was there comment on whether there were a bunch of routes open? I know it was only about 8 snaps or so, but hey whatever you can observe.
I think they did, LOL. The point of the write up is that in live play, it opens up deep gashing runs by the quarterback.
Or to put it more bluntly, rush 3 guys and then drop 8 back in coverage, knowing that the QB isn't going to run the ball. An exaggeration to be sure, but it gets the point across. In previous press conferences, Rex has stated that no team would put 2 safeties back when Tebow was in because if they did, he'd just continue to run it on them.
Here is a much easier excuse. He was attempting to play as a legitimate NFL QB, which he isn't. Using him as a football player/special package QB will be much more effective as it will play to his strengths instead of his weaknesses.
Tebow had 3 scrambles for 14 yards, so it's not like he couldn't run? He's not competing for the #1 QB spot anyway so I don't know why you guys feel the need to make excuses. He's probably going to be a big plus player for the Jets in goal line, wildcat and special teams this year. I can see him being the difference in a few games.
I agree that he is not competing for the #1 QB spot. It is firmly Sanchez's job to start the season. I still think the media and fans will make a circus out of it. If Sanchez struggles, he will be on the hot seat, but you can say that about almost any QB who is not considered elite. Only, most QBs don't have a backup who is more popular than he is.
He certainly is not competing for the starting position. But I believe he is being developed as a quarterback, and ultimately his career depends on mastering the footwork, timing (anticipation), and arm speed for the short precision passing game. So that will be the continued story. This wasn't much information. The question on the table is "what next?" I'm interested in his development along a Rich Gannon career path.
haha... ALL non-elite QBs have backups that are more popular then they are. Have you ever heard of Brett Ratliff? Oh, sorry, you are one of those "new" Jets fans.
I think his career is going to take a unique path that will ultimately result in him being a great utility knife player much like the Jets are starting to experiment with him now. He can be a mismatch for opponents when put in the right positions, but he's a liability as a full time QB. There's a place for him in the NFL, it just needs to be defined. Like Parcells said in the Serby interview. Don't tell me what a player can't do. Tell me what they can do and make them do it over and over.
Accidentally posted this in the main thread when I meant to put it here... I'll copy and paste since its more pertinent to this discussion: I'm ok with them going two deep against Tim. He could use the work. It doesnt make him look good and fuels the haters around here, but it's something he'd NEVER see in a real game or he'd just run for 200+. But it's good for him to be handcuffed and practice his weaknesses. That deep ball looked perfect btw.
If by perfect you mean a little to far and just out of reach, I agree. If it were perfect it would have landed in the guys hands.
According to a poster in the main thread who was there, the reciever slowed down thinking it was going to be short and ended up having to dive for it at the end. He said the ball was perfect and he was there... impossible for me to tell from a video, I'm just taking his word for it. And it wasn't a Tebot that said it either.
Kellen Clemens was our future! We didn't surround him and develop him correctly :breakdance: Clemens and Ratliff were fan favorites here (I only lurked the board then). McElroy is a fan favorite now.
I'm shocked that you're blaming someone else for what allegedly would have been perfection by Tebow. You guys never pass blame when Tebow is at fault.