An apologist is somebody who defends an idea or religious philosophy. Mark Sanchez is a person. If you're going to throw him under the bus at least get the terminology right. :lol: Only apologists support their starting QB. Get outta here. Darksiders = blinded by hate. No logic whatsoever, just hatred and attacking. What a nice life you must have. I just hope the ignore list doesn't have a max :lol:
My biggest problem with Sanchez is his pocket awareness.....or lack thereof. He is always the lat one to know hes about to get sacked. He never throws the ball away....he rarely makes something happen on a broken play. He gives up. Ever since the Baltimore game last year. Slightest pressure, hes done. It is sooooooo obvious. I cannpot believe that people dont see this. Bottom line is he is clearly a pussy guys.
My take is that Haloti Ngata blind-sided him with a helmet hit between his shoulderblades, coming from the angle that D'Brick covers, and that was it for the year. I don't think Sanchez trusted anybody on the line after that except for Mangold and maybe Moore. I think he heard footsteps all season and eventually they caught up to him which is what happens when you're listening for them. BTW, nothing he could possibly have done to avoid the Ngata hit. It was 2.5 seconds and helmet in your back. He'd have had to be facing that way to get under it.
Unfortunately, I must agree that there is some Ken O'Brien Syndrome going on (Ken in later years). And it may be good that he doesn't throw the ball away becasue I have seen him throw it to the other team when he tries to. lol. j/k All our concerns are the preseason microscope. But, I do think our concerns have merit this year.
Ngata beat D'Brick though and he beat him cleanly. Earlier in the game Ed Reed came in uncontested from a tight blitz when D'Brick went inside. Both plays turned into fumbles, one returned for a TD. If I'm Sanchez in that game I'm thinking "ok, I know Hunter is terrible, Baxter is clearly not up to the job, now D'Brick is letting people blind-side me at will." That's like surrender time.
Stay with us, here, puddy cat. Put down the webster's.... Sanchez apologists try to defend against the 'idea' that Sanchez sucks. Religiously. Blindly. So much so, they cease to defend against the facts (because the facts are indisputable- Sanchez sucks) and argue against the form and method ("terminology") by which others note the many ways Sanchez sucks. And, as in the present case, they are often blind to their own ignorance, even as they denounce others for an ignorance they themselves boastingly exhibit. Because i know that you will be undoubtedly dumbfounded by my terminology, my method, my form, and my argument.... blindingly! let me put it simply: Sanchez dove under the bus. Seemingly willingly!
yeah he gets "paid to win"...and so does his o-line and rec's and te's and rb's...oh and his coaches and gm...see if sanchez were the only one getting paid ur point would be better
Even the biggest of homers know that Sanchez struggled last year. He had his ups and downs. He was good in the red zone, but committed a lot of turnovers. The Jets struggles on offense weren't just because of him. These are the facts. Not "he sucks". You talk about a blind religious idea. There you go. Sanchez sucks, close the door, he's never getting better. I just find it hilarious how downright spiteful some of you guys are. This is why I think at least half the darksiders are troll fans from other teams.
If Sanchez sucks is a fact, that too an indisputable fact, then why on earth do you have to defend your indisputable fact? Oh, I know why. Cuz its not a god damn fact! Its an opinion of someone that knows shit about football. Edit: Scratch that. Just saw that you joined in March 2012 - The Tebow Trade month.
People who have concluded that Sanchez sucks, just don't understand football, period. I am skeptical on whether or not he will be a franchise QB, however, at this point we just do not have enough to say that he sucks. Lets look at the facts: 1) He came out of college as a 1 year starter, everyone knew he was raw coming out. 2) He was thrown right into the fire, did not get even a half of a season like Eli got to watch and learn, and he did OK, played well at times, terrible at times. 3) He did not have a veteran mentor QB, like most young QB's do, which is valuable. 4) Year 2 he improved over year 1, played very well in the playoffs, our defense shit the bed against the steelers, and Sanchez nearly brought the team back. 5) Last year was a horrible offensive line, as if that was not bad enough, he was playing with a poor receiving core. He got the shit kicked out of him early and often. He is human. 6) Many QB's take time to develop, Eli was much more mature than Sanchez coming out, had so much more in his favor, had a better team around him, and everyone said he sucked right up until he won a SB in year 4, now he is most likely a HOF'er. I am not saying he is Eli, because honestly, even if he could have been, I think the Jets have messed up Sanchez so badly by this point, that the best we can hope for is good. But to say he sucks after last year, sorry, you just don't know how football works.
I just hope for the teams sake that Sanchez takes that step. It would really suck if we have to start this process all over again trying to find a new qb.
If we have to start over it is going to cost us at least a year or two just to get back to where we were in 2009, probably longer than that. 1965 Namath, 1976 Todd, 1983 O'Brien, 2000 Pennington, 2009 Sanchez. First round franchise opportunities are a once-a-decade thing if you're lucky.
This is insightful, and not a lot of people realize this. Still though, look at what happened to the colts with Peyton gone. They were trash last season. A good QB does raise the level of everyone around them. As you mentioned, Mark came into a great situation. To be honest, he didn't play well at all his first season. Year 2 was very good as far as improvement. Partially because he was surrounded by talent at wideout (Braylon, Holmes, Cotchery). None of them are really legit Calvin Johnson type #1s, but both Braylon and Holmes were borderline 1s with cotch being above average as a #3. Last year his supporting cast wasn't as good. He lost Cotch and Braylon whom he had played with for a long time. Woody retired. The oline was a mess. The flip side of the talent around him argument is what we see from watching him. Mark still makes horrible throws sometimes on short passes like we saw in the last preseason game. He turns the ball over too often. Even with a poor supporting cast, there is no excuse for leading the league in QB turnovers. I hope he gets it together, but I have a feeling this is going to be a rough year for him.
What happened to the Colts last year is everything changed. Peyton Manning was a big part of that but the entire offense changed when he was not available. Nobody was playing the role they were drafted to play on offense because the guy that made that offense possible was not available. The roots of the change weren't in the injury last year. They were in the failure to replace Edgerrin James satisfactorily when he left. James was an absolute workhorse for the Colts and had 360 carries the year before he left and 334 the year before that. He started out with 369 carries his rookie year and 387 the year after that. He was an integral part of the Colts offense alongside Manning. Manning's throws were high early in his career but by prime time he had settled down and threw less than 500 balls back to back years in James last two years on the Colts. Then in 2006 the Colts replace James with Addai, who was never capable of being a workhorse, and Manning's throws start to spike upwards just as he hits 30 and when his body is beginning the long slow decline. In 2006 he throws the ball 557 times, more than 100 throws more than 2005. 2007 the Colts cut back a bit to 515 and then for his last 3 years with the Colts the numbers are 555. 571, 679!. That he got hurt after that is hardly surprising. And the roots of that were in the Colts not getting a workhorse back in to take the 330+ carries that provided him with a consistent respite during games. In 2011 specifically the Colts line was aging and injured. Only Jeff Saturday started all 16 games there and he was 36 years old. They had rookies starting games for them and the line was pretty patchwork for a lot of the season. So the collapse last year was something that had been building for years and finally the key piece fell out and everything else, which had been building towards failure also over the years, fell out with him. I don't see how Sanchez survives the season as starting QB, although with Hunter not starting he might live through it now.
