I fell asleep during the middle of the 4th quarter of the Jets/Panthers game so I didn't see a lot of the plays. I rewatched it and actually, I was a bit surprised. Tebow didn't play as badly as the numbers suggest. He had a few nice spiraled passes that were on target. A few misses as well, but it wasn't the suckfest I had thought it was by reading the comments here. He had one pass to Jordan White that the defender made a good play on. You could say that Tebow threw it just a bit late, but you could also say White ran kind of a lazy route. He ran a post pattern but just kind of lazily hooked left. If he had faked right a bit and cut hard to the left, he would have been gravy. Not an excuse, just an observation. Tebow had some nice runs on that last drive and kept the plays alive where some other QBs would have gotten sacked. The argument can also be made that a better passer would have gotten rid of the ball sooner... I'm sure there will be plenty of guys who comment on this thread who will mention that. Overall, I liked what I saw on that last drive from the offense. He was going for the TD and made some good passes. With the time running down and no time outs, it's hard for anyone to complete a pass in the endzone. Defense knows what you're going to do. Still not any reason for Sanchez or his supporters to be nervous. Unless Sanchez has a complete meltdown, the Jets start 0-5, or he gets injured, he is QB1 for the season. But, I like watching Tebow play. Watching Sanchez is kind of boring.
Well said... It wasn't as bad as people make it out to be, but it wasn't very good either. The one interception was a bad throw (really bad IMO), but he's not the first or last QB that will make a throw like that. The completion % is a little skewed because of the 4 deep throws to the endzone at the end of the game that the defense knew exactly what was coming...still, 2 of the desperation heaves were a little high, so the recievers didn't even have a chance. I thought he made some nice throws out there though...I've seen all his games in college and the pro's, and I can tell he's making strides. The motion is a little better, but the main thing is I can tell he's getting much better going through his progressions. Also, it is obvious to me that the type of plays they are running so far are exactly Tebow's weakness...I applaud the coaching staff for not running him with what he's comfortable running, and using the preseason to develop the things he's not good at...Some people are too blind to see that. The plays he ran in preseason he will rarely run in a real game this year, even if he were to be the starter if Sanchez got hurt or sucked...
I agree. I saw improvement, advancement, in the things he used to never do, the throws he used to bypass. I'm also noticing that his velocity is increasing. He's gone from "respectable" on his velocity (by NFL standards), to really notable. I think he's getting things tightened up to where he's going to play with a cannon arm when he's at full polish. Now he's get to reign it in and get some more touch on his short and intermediate throws, and pull the trigger more quickly also.
Yep. Velocity was looking very good. Just wish we could see more of the plays to ascertain if guys are open or what. Why is he taking so long to throw? TBH, I don't think every receiver is tightly covered on some of the plays he is hesitating on. The defensive pressure plays a role, as well as the Oline, no doubt. But I need to see more of what's happening downfield to make an accurate judgement.
Your opinion on QB play is worthless if you don't think Tebow's play on Sunday should be considered a suckfest. You guys live in fantasy world.
Guys are talking football and here you go with insults. Aren't you supposed to be moderating that type of behavior instead of perpetuating it? Anyways (for those of you who want to talk football without getting personal), I maintain that it wasn't a good QB performance, but it wasn't as bad as I thought. Sanchez wasn't so hot either. anxious to see how this all pans out in the regular season. Crazy to think the 3rd or 4th string QBs will probably score the first TDs of the preseason.
It's his fault, mostly. If you're not ready with your timing to fire the ball (feet, legs, body, arm), you look over and the window flashes open and then closed before you know it. Picture yourself as a baseball batter -- if you don't go through a mechanical movement as the pitch is being delivered, a fastball will go right by you before you even have time to swing. What is meant by "rhythm" is that your body goes to throw an on time throw, before you're even sure you're going to throw it. You know when and where the throw will open up, and you do the pre-action of that throw. If it's open, you let it fly, if it's not, you bail on that particular option and move to the next progression. What he's missing at times is that anticipatory timing. He's got to learn for each throw how it really looks open. Look at the great throw at 1:28 on this video from the other night http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000055164/Preseason-Week-3-Tim-Tebow-highlights He gets an A on that play. The tight end must have been the primary, as it was his first look. It was "NFL open." If he waits a split second longer the safety makes the play and even intercepts. But he was on it -- on time, on target, in rhythm. He knows what that play looks like when it is open. He has to get to the point where for each route of each play, it's not just sight-reading -- his body knows the throws -- here, there, there BOOM. Plus, he just doesn't like to dump it off to a checkdown. So there's that. He could get a lot of freebie completions if he would do that.
Tebow sucked donkey balls last game . He had a clear moment to stick it in the hearts of the haters and it did not work out . I love Tebow I'm a fan of his through good or bad no matter what but last game was BAD. I have seen every snap Tebow has taken in college or the NFL ( actually missed 2 of his college games but had updates on phone ) he looked REALLY unsure and uncomfortable on some plays . I think all the attempts at changing his motion are starting to catch up to him. It was a mistake to try and change it 3 years ago, look at Tebow in his rookie season throwing the ball " with his bad motion" against Houston and torching them for 300+ yards ( before the ongoing and continuous and endless tweaks to his motion ) , this Tebow seems lost In an in between state of what he was and what he is trying to be . Stop the the bad motion nonsense , he needs to be who he is. Such bad advice this kid has gotten , I hope his natural skill can power through it , between Tony " fist pump for field goals" Sporano, the Jets atrocious o-line and lack of offensive talent and Tebow's relentless drive to change something that really was not broken , just different , you get what we saw last game .
I agree Tebow sucked hard last game ( chrome off the trailer hitch hard) but talk about fantasy world LOL , Jet fans have taken up residence there if they think Sanchez is any better , even with Sanchez's pretty spirals and higher completion percentage , he has less total yards , less first downs, same amount of points generated , same turnovers in the exact same drives with Tebow spotting him a kneel.,...they both suck bud . I am a fan of both and will continue to be but the truth is the truth . At some point someone somewhere besides me is going to start looking towards Tony" fist pump for field goals" Sporano as a common denominator because I believe both Sanchez and Tebow are much better than this .
More evidence that you're living in fantasy land. In no way, shape or form should Tebow ever be compared to an actual NFL QB like Sanchez.
Ok I won't compare Tebow to Sanchez , how about just looking at Sanchez then . He was the starting QB for the first team in 35 years to not score a TD in pre Season ( I'm not kidding with that ).
In 2011 Richard Bartel, Sam Bradford and Matthew Stafford led the preseason w/5 TD passes each. Regular Season TD pass Rank: Bartel - 50th Bradford - 32nd Stafford - 3rd Drew Brees, Eli Manning and Alex Smith all threw for 0 TD's in preseason. Regular Season TD pass Rank: Brees - 1st Manning - 6th Smith - 17th
An "actual NFL QB" is one who is on an NFL roster listed as QB. You may not like his style of play, but he has achieved success with it. Because he does not play like a pocket passer does not mean he is not an NFL QB. It just means he does not have the same style of play as the majority of NFL QBs and does not thrive in a conventional offense. Michael Jordan didn't play like the guys in the 50's did. Sports constantly evolve.
I think he had to do it. It's costing him -- not looking good, opening himself up for criticism, all the internet sadboys able to ask rhetorically "Why isn't this particular throw easy for him by now?" But in the grand scheme of thinks, I think it was necessary.
Oh-em-gee.... Is this what it's come to now -- Tebow is failing because he's been given "bad advice" regarding the need to change his mechanics?? AYFKM? Bannon, I have to say: Initially, you got on my nerves as a blind Tebot; but the more you post, the more objective and realistic you apparently are. Just thought I'd give you props for that.
