i still don't get why this is happening. are there really no cbs on the market that teaching joe mcknight a whole new position is the better idea? i find that hard to believe. i'm scared guys..
Scared of what? The fact that we took an unproductive guy who barely played and moved him into another position in which he will see just as little playing time, for depth purposes? To be "scared" over this move is ridiculous, this move is being way too over hyped.
I like this idea. He's a pretty talented kid, I think, and he can do this. He ain't Revis, but he will do.
Joe McKnight us miscast as a runningback. He just doesn't fit that position at the pro level. But he has so much athletic ability that they need to be used in some other respect. He has played corner before and the Jets have used him ass a corner in practice a number of times, and it appears that his skills air that position better. Don't be scared. Daddy will protect you.
Let's assume this is correct, I'd still happily move to CB. From player's standpoint, the more versatile you are, the more likely a team will keep you. Now he can play in 3 spots: RB, CB, special teams. To me it's job security, I wouldn't be pissed off about it. Besides, it isn't like McKnight was ever gonna become a 1000-yds back.
I would just point this out since the comparison with Brown and Edlelman is made so often. BOTH Brown and Edelman were told they were going to see some snaps in TC, .and both went through drills and to meetings in August. What I find curious is not that the Jets are making the move (it only makes sense to try and salvage some prodution from a great athlete who isn't getting it done as a RB), but rather that they chose to do it it so late late in the game. I guess better late than never. BTW- I wonder if he still has that 15 lbs of "muscle" packed on. I don't think he'll be be effective as a 5'10 220 lb CB. :wink:
So...are the Jets going to replace Revis today or just play with 52 this weekend because we are so good?
You only get 46 on gameday anyway so it doesn't really matter. They're probably waiting on that second opinion just in case prior to putting him on IR. Maybe even waiting until after surgery in case it's a minor tear or something.
I know that but unless we take somebody off the practice squad we won't have that and I don't think anybody believes Revis will be back this year. That second opinion is only to discuss the procedure and not to determine the extent of the injury.
Why does it matter if we have 53 players if you can only have 46 active on game day? You act like it's arrogant of the Jets to not immediately IR Revis and pickup someone else. Even if they signed some FA this week he almost certainly wouldn't be active vs. the Niners, so why does it matter if we have 6 or 7 inactive players for the week?
I think it is arrogant not to have signed a replacement. The longer it takes to sign one the longer it takes to have somebody ready as you point out.
Now I understand. I think they're just waiting to close the door until they are 100% sure he's done for the season. If their is a .5% chance he could make it back due to a misdiagnosis or lesser tear than originally anticipated they will find out after surgery and/or with a second opinion. In the mean time, they're taking a little risk if corners start dropping like flies.
I don't mind the move of McKnight per se. Do I know they gave him enough of a shot at RB? No, but I don't know they didn't, either. So let's just say they lost confidence in him there, but want to see if he works out at cb. Fine. But mid season? Hm, that doesn't seem like it indicates any planning or foresight. It seems reactive to Revis's being out. And is McKnight moving over there really an answer to the new thinness at CB? I really have a problem with that one. So, Carr is being brought in? Any word anyone else is? What if Carr doesn't work out? Are we really going to see McKnight take the field on D? Bottom line is I have no real problem with the move itself, but don't pretend it is any answer for the shortage at CB.
The Patriots have gotten away with moving a couple of players to CB over the years because CB just isn't that high an impact position unless the guy truly sucks and gets picked on. Bill Belichik has roots in coaching the defensive backfield and he seems to have a really good eye for assessing the talent level in a player and accurately deciding whether he's going to be a bleeding wound back there or not.
This is our front office. Very reactionary, actually a huge fault of theirs as well as they seem to ignore a situation until its too late (WFH, Slow old LB's, Too much $ in CB, Holmes, 2ndTE, RB). I'm begining to think the FO is totally inept! That said, Joe wasnt going to see the field other than as a KR. The coaching staff must have given him chances and they have 0 confidence he can perform as a RB (cant pass pro or hold onto the ball). His roster spot is becasue of his big play ability on ST, outside of that they are trying to find a role for him.
the two huys you are reffering to were both former recievers (Edelman was also a college QB). These positions have a greater possibility of transitioning to CB than a RB does I would think...
i just don't see the down side to this. just in numbers joe will be filing the roster spot of #5 cb #3 rb and kr. thats one guy filling 3 spots where he used to only fill 2. that leaves an extra opening on the game day 46. are they going to find a guy who is that much better as the #5 cb that his value will greater then the roster flexibilty joe will give rex. at this point in the year i doubt it. as far as reps.he has been lining up with the scout team at cb,so its not ike he hasn't taken any reps at all. now he will be in the meetings learning calls and assignments.it's really a no lose situation
If Joe sees the field at CB, I doubt it will be an issue. Its not like we are putting him on an island with their number #1. What we really need is for Wilson to step it up.
if i hear one more person say "it's not like joe will be on a #1" im going to lose my shit lol i ask again. what if the jets are playing zone coverage?
Then Joe has to cover his zone if he's on the field. So you think QB translates to CB better than RB? OK. I'm going to say Rex probably has a better idea of how well he translates here. Not that Rex is above criticism but he's done OK on the defensive side of the ball in his career. I think he can figure out whether Joe is capable or not.