There's been a lot of talk about apologists on this board of late and this is another example. Nobody seems to want to hold Rex Ryan primarily accountable for the team's woes. Well, I'm going to do that right now.. Ryan's made a bunch of odd decisions... Sticking with Hunter too long, falling in love with players like Connor and Wilson like they were imminent superstars... cutting loose players who held the locker room together... taking on others who tore it apart... failing to realize that Sanchez will never be able to overcome his fragile mind to lead the team...being unable to understand that his receiving corps was weak at best... sticking with aging linebackers... drafting mediocre talent... shifting McKnight to cornerback and then back... His clock management has been awful. His use of Tebow has been worse. He hired the only offensive coordinator worse than the last one. He was originally a defensive genius whose teams could pressure quarterbacks. That hasn't happened in two seasons. His offenses have been bland and predictable. And he has put his money on sub-par talent. Does anyone hear players say they would run through a brick wall for Ryan anymore? Because they wouldn't. His schtick has grown old. And so has a lot of the talent he inherited when he came in. He is being exposed. And as a Jets fan, I don't like it one bit. I'm willing to be convinced, but I want to hear some arguments about the things Rex has done right over the past two seasons. Name a player he developed. Explain where this team is going. What's the philosophy? Tell me why I'm wrong.
While I agree that Rex still has a lot to learn and prove before being seen as more than just a Defensive-minded coach, let's be honest, if the Jets fired him there would be a dozen teams knocking on his door offering him a head-coaching gig. The reason we are upset with rex is because we know he is on that next level of coaches that can win a title in this league. I can think of a lot of Jets' HCs that I wouldn't have said that about.
Can we honestly attribute all of these failures or changes just to Rex Ryan? I'm speaking honestly when I say I'm really not sure if we can lay all the blame at his door. Some of these must have come from Sparano and Pettine.
Which one of those failures do you want to place on his coordinators? -- because I'm pretty sure Rex is the head coach and he put those coordinators in place.
I think he's probably get another job, but I seriously doubt he's as valuable as you perceive, especially after the way he has assembled his team over the past two years.
The reason the Jets collapsed in 1970 was Weeb Ewbank. Nah, they had injuries and had drafted poorly for a couple of years and had no plan aside from pray Joe Namath still has it. But wait, that's on Weeb Ewbank right? Nah, Sonny Werblin had been bought out in the Super Bowl season and the Jets plan for success went with him and by 1971 the flaws in the new plan were glaring. Wait, though, isn't the head coach the guy who ultimately makes all the talent decisions on a team and shouldn't the buck stop with him? Nah, the only thing that stops at the head coach's desk is the axe when somebody needs to go because the entire organization has failed to get things done. Him included. But Weeb Ewbank was responsible for the Jets great decline after 1969. *wink*
he needs to get back to calling 100% of the defensive plays...fuck if it upsets Pettine...get that shit back on track!
Mike Pettine works with the Defense as a Defensive Coordinator, right? He works with Rex in order to scheme and come up with a gameplan, right? Sparano is the Offensive Coordinator, who works to come up with a game plan for next weeks game, right? Does he incorporate Tebow in that game plan? I understand your point about Rex and things he has done wrong. He's also led us to 2 AFC Championship Games. Believe me, there are things I haven't agreed with in regards to the way he is running this team. For example, saying that "...this is the best team I've ever coached in all my seasons with the Jets" is BS. We ALLLL know that. I think the whole 8-8 last year was a big eye opener. However, I blame Mike Tannenbaum for the lack of players we have on the field. Rex isn't in complete control of their contracts, what they get paid, how much cap room we have available, etc. This is Mike T's job! So I ask you, what the hell has Mike T done to help the Jets? Cause as far as I can see...not much. Thoughts?
1. So he has the authority to HIRE his own OC? That's a news to me. Which HC has that kind of power, by the way? Let me know if you find one. I would have to tell you that... you are barking up the WRONG tree. 2. Ok. The defense is shit. That's the bottom line. Now, can you find a coach that can coach speed? Obviously Rex cannot do that. I have never seen any coach - regardless of their coaching level - do that. Slow fucks are slow fucks. And old. That's on Ryan too, right? I knew he should have done better job coaching speed. 3. So Ryan told T-Bomb to hold onto WFH? Really? That's a news to me. 4. Now... HE cuts players? So what is T-Bomb doing basically then? It sounds like Rex Ryan is the HC AND GM all rolled into one, no? So T-Bomb is stealing his salary for doing nothing then? Just how is that franchise running?
The problem with the OP as it is on so many of these concerns is we as fans don't know who is responsible, and in regards to decisions or failures that have some kind of shared ressponsibility, what the relative responsibilities are. Having said that I have no reason to think Ryan has PRIMARY responsiblity for personnel decisions. I am pretty sure that area is controlled by Tanny and the occasional (meaning on worst occasions) meddling by the clownish owner. Ryan probably has some input, of course, but most of the problems the OP mentions are really roster related.
i do not agree. He doesn't have the overall grasp of the whole thing to the next level of winners. He talks a good game, and is a football man but he is not good at implementing an overall strategy. He is continously compromising his own vision, which is baffling.
A lot has been thrown in Tannenbaums lap regarding the players signed by this team, but I have to believe that Tanny doesn't come up with these ideas of who to sign on his own. Rex has to go to management and tell them what areas need to be addressed and ask Tanny to find out whose available. I'm sure at that point Tanny goes to Rex and gives this information to Rex and its then his call on who to go after. Rex needs to be held more accountable then anyone for this mess.
Players love Rex..he is loyal to them...problem is his loyalty is holding the team's young players from developing and making an impact.
The thing is, GM is NOT working for the HC under any circumstance. He should have his own vision and philosophy about talent acquisition and coaching. Of course he should be consulting the HC about prospects and free agents, but again, he is not working under the HC. That's why he is the GM. The decision is his to make.
Curtis Martin said during the hall of fame ceremony -- you never want to leave the huddle because you don't know who will take your spot...might never get back on the field. I don't think anyone on the Jets has fear that they can lose their job...people need some fear.
Yea Rex can't get on the field and make tackles, catch balls, not make stupid throws. Sure you can do more preparation work but it all comes down to the decreasing talent we are putting on the field along with the weak supporting staff. Just dissappointing all around! I would rather clean house with players than our HC here.
