Like I said in the other thread, Rex Ryan, with all the talk and bravado, is too nice a guy to be entrusted as a head coach. I am not enamored by Parcells as much as I once used to, but consider this. If the defense quit on the field, do you honestly think Parcells would let that fly? Not even when hell freezes over. Ryan is too nice to the point where he fails to hold the guys accountable for their jobs. He'd be better DC now than HC - that's my 2 cent. Remember. Production is the name of the business. Regardless of how nice you are, it is ALWAYS better to be feared than to be loved. As the leader of the whole pack, you NEED to be feared. They must respect what you say. If they don't produce, you must make sure that piss-poor performance meets its fitting consequence. I do not think Ryan is doing that.
Of course we get all this stuff filtered through the media, but putting that aside I think Ryan comes across as a guy who'd fit in with me and my friends. Go on camping trips shooting shit around the fire and having some drinks. Much more so than someone like say Tom Coughlin. Can you imagine playing golf with Tom Coughlin? When someone like Ryan comes into the picture, I tend to root for them because they seem like good guys. But my assessment he might be better in a golf foursome than someone like Coughlin is belied by the fact that Coughlin has two SB rings and Rex's team is in shambles in his fourth season. Tells you something. Beyond that if I knew as some are suggesting here that all these bad roster moves are ones that Ryan has been up to his eyeballs in, I'd change my tune and be all for getting rid of him. But lacking that, and for the time being, I think he gets some more slack to show whether he can turn it around.
I tend to favor disciplinarian coaches, too, but Coughlin was fired from his first gig as an NFL Head Coach and was in a far more tenuous position than Rex is now just a few years back. If the Giants don't make their improbable Super Bowl run in '07, Coughlin likely gets fired and leaves football with the legacy of being a guy who was too intense for his own good. Heck, even last year, there was talk that he'd lost his team. There's a constant ebb and flow in sports, coaches constantly have to make adjustments, there isn't one approach that serves as a definitive blueprint for success. Coughlin's been able to make the necessary adjustments to succeed, time will tell if Rex can do the same.
Man it burns me up when people dog Rex. Before Rex, who was the Jets last head coach with a similar record over 3 years? Bill Parcells with a 29-19 record, 1 AFC championship appearance and 2 seasons of not qualifying for the playoffs. Rex from 2009-2011? 28-20 with 2 AFC championship appearances. You can point whatever you want at Rex and be all butt hurt about a bad loss or past seasons or whatever. I'm going to give him the respect he has earned.
I couldn't agree more. My wife.... Let me stress this--my WIFE--said to me during his second year that the Jets seemed like they were becoming less and less disciplined under Ryan. I'd love to look at the penalty stats to see if that was true or just seemed that way. But I will say this: I completely agreed then and I agree doubly now. This is an undisciplined and poorly coached team. As much as I hate to say it, Rex is just not a good HC. He is like a mean version of Richie Kotite. Oh no.
You talk as if the Jets have some historic franchise full of winning coaches and Rex is just so much better then them. Newsflash, this franchise has been awful 80% of the time. Even though Rex has done a nice job his first two years, he is certainly not irreplaceable. Especially if the defense continues to drop and he loses the locker room (last year) and the team quits him (last game).
'm fully aware of the bad coaches and the bad Jets teams over the years. I was basically saying that Rex's record coaching the Jets is comparable to the last really good Jets head coach who is a Hall of Fame coach. So that was more than 10 years ago. I'm not going to play Jets history with you but basically he's the best we've had (no disrespect to the Weeb folks, he was before my time). No one is irreplaceable but I'm not about to give up on Rex. He's one of the best we've had.
dont put rex and parcells in the same sentence it's embarrassing and rex took over for mangini, parcells for kotite...big big difference
nonsense...why does rex get credit for 09 an 10 then? woody's money and the gm gave rex the "talent" to win right? why does tannenbaum get blamed for "no talent" but no praise for the talent rex was given? and why is it ur so heavy on d over o as far as both "talent" and draft picks? b/c rex is a d co masking as a hc and knows/cares nothing about that side of the ball...what makes him a good coach? it isn't offense, it isn't strategy...his biggest talent is convincing silly people he can actually coach
I'm just amazed that his genius blitzing schemes have been completely scouted and neutralized by opposing teams. The team gets zero pressure on the quarterback, despite the drafting of potential-laden defensive ends Wilkerson and Coples. If Rex can't produce on defense, please tell me why he should be the coach?
I do not believe this at all. If you said a dozen teams would be knocking on his door to be a DC, then I'd probably agree.
