coaching staff is terrible...

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  1. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Fuck this thread. This is the best CS we've had since Tuna and Belistink were here.
     
  2. Aewhistory

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    I had the same sort of realization when McKnight ran it back. Basically I thought, "woohoo, look at McKnight go! We scored! Hot damn! Oh shit.... Now the D has to go back on the field. Hope they got a big adrenaline rush from this score because they are bound to be exhausted right about now."

    So while I can't claim to have been a huge fan of the onside kick when they did it, it dawned on me shortly afterward that it made q certain amount of sense given my previous reasoning (reasoning that I would hope occurred to our coaching staff). My problem with it is that even with the D winded I think we might have held them if we had better field position for the very reason I mentioned above: adrenaline. Rex just didn't allow for the swing in momentum to help his own team. Bad judgement IMHO. In understand his decision, but I don't agree with it.
     
  3. Br4d

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    Do you really believe that?

    I got the distinct feeling tonight that Rex is in over his head. Too many timeouts wasted because the OC was fooling around a little with Plan B but not enough to matter and then the 12 man on the field penalty on his side of the ball.

    Why did the Jets let Tebow start the 5th drive and not let him finish it?

    Why did the Jets take Sanchez out on the 16 after he'd just completed a pass under pressure to get them there?

    This toing-and-froing with the QB's is bad news. The fact that the Jets are scared to give Tebow a full drive or keep him on the bench tells us (and the whole team) that the coaches don't think they can control the issue once it is opened up.

    I've been a big Rex supporter over the years but I think his time is running really short now and like Sanchez the main reason is he can't raise his game when real adversity threatens to bring the Jets down.
     
  4. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    Our coaching staff is god awful; and these youngish offensive oriented coaches like Harbaugh and Kubiak,
    are taking Rex, and his reputation as a defensive mastermind, to the woodshed.
     
  5. Jake

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    You know football, I won't tell you you don't, but don't tell me Hermway was ever this competitive. I look at how they handled Belistink.... Herm couldn't beat him (01-04 asskickings), Mangini did and RR hung with him. Herm took what Tuna built and ran it into the soil. Mangini took a mess, squeezed out what he could from garbage and was canned before his vision could be complete, RR took over with solid personnel and made shit happen. That's my take. We're finding out where we stand now.

    The gadget playing you're seeing now is because we can't run the ball imo. Sparano is creative, he will create plays, I like that bout him
     
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    The stupid gimmick plays are frustrating to watch. As much as I dislike Francesa, he's right about one thing: you only run the wildcat for one reason -- your regular offense isn't working.

    The McKnight wildcat play for an 8-yard loss was critical. It left us with 3rd and 18. Why not take a shot down the field? An incomplete pass is better than -8 yards.

    Tebow running read option actually works and then we abandon it, just like in the Pitt game.
     
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  7. Jake

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    You call for more Read-option after critiquing too many gimmick calls?
     
  8. Ted

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    Sparano is clueless at running an in sync offense. He tends to over analyze situations and waste valuable time as you saw tonight. Burning TOs because he can't get a play in cost the Jets in the end.
     
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    Garbage analysis from a hater. Plays were there, lack of excecution.
     
  10. Green Lantern 80

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    Perhaps the question is if Woody decides to make a change at coach/gm which he could at any time who would take the job. NOT who would you want. Who would TAKE the job given what we have or rather don't have.
     
  11. Ted

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    ..........:rofl:
     
  12. Jake

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    Easily said in hindsight Ted. Show me the gameplan you would've had vs HOU, or at least describe it.

    And the plays Sparano called in wrong situation.
     
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    I agree. Why they disrupt the rhythm of Sanchez AND Tebow is beyond me. If these plays are the secret weapons that took Sparano the entire offseason and preseason to develop then he's a moron. The disjointed play calling doesn't confuse our opponents as much as it confuses our own team. Lame.
     
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  14. Ted

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    The use of Tebow is a good place to start. After running 13 yards to the Houston 3, they let Tebow take a second snap which he gains nothing then remove him. Why would you not leave him in for 2nd and 3d down when he is the best threat to gain a critical 3 yards in the red zone? And if you can't give him an entire series, why bring him in? Do you not believe that it disrupts Sanchez' ability to get into a rhythm?

    Time outs. Again wasted time outs are caused by his inability to get make a decision quickly and get a play in. When facing a 3d and eighteen with 3 minutes left they had only one time out left. Would have been nice to have an extra one there so the Jets could put together two plays to pick up 18 yards. Result, game clinching interception.

    Jake those are two huge issues on that side of the ball. Take away those issues and he called a decent game, I'll give him that. But after watching the same stuff in Miami for 4 years and now seeing it being repeated in New York pretty much indicates that his ability to manage in game is faulty. If the Jets are going to succeed on offense he has got to have a plan to incorporate Tebow in with out upsetting Sanchez' ability to establish a rhythm.

    This may sound pretty ridiculous and I can't believe I am thinking it but perhaps the coaching staff is concerned that if Tebow plays a series and sparks the Jets on an impressive scoring drive, a can of worms will be opened that can't be reversed.
     
  15. Ben Had

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    Yep...lot of fin fans tryed to tell you so.
     
  16. 85inthehall

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    Soprano annoyed me with his play calling. The communication and confusion with person el groupings forcing the offense to be rushed time and again was inexcusable. Happened over and over. He seemed to pull Schotty like plays out of his ass during the game. Backup center is in?ets run a gimmick timing hand off...you want to run that just put in tebow. Direct snap to McKnight with 10 guys in the box? Burning time outs. 1 st and goal at the 3 you give tebow one shot then decide to throw twice when you have no go to receiver and your top tight end isn't playing.

    No confidence in the running game at all. You run one screen pass for 18 yards....don't try another all game.

    Inside kick I was okay with. Defense had been in the field for 10 minutes....and schile a bad the ball. Greene was awful running the ball. Time to see what Powell can do.

    Defense was better....aside from th 50 yard run which resulted in a punt they played much better.
     
  17. Biggs

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    The team played very hard and had a shot to win. The Jets are a team with a ton of injuries to key starters and a new O. The coaching was not a problem yesterday we were in a position to win, we competed hard and were outmanned.

    Lossing to better teams is not always coaching.
     
  18. jerseyjay14

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    your 90% of the time assumption is incredibly inaccurate.
     
  19. jerseyjay14

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    those next 2 plays resulted in 12 yards. and gave us second and goal from the 4 yardline. are you not ok with getting 6 yards a play in that situation?

    if anything, the mistake was not leaving tebow in for 2nd and 3rd down
     
  20. Lon Chaney

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    I'm pretty sure Kerley was rocked near the sideline, and that's why he came out of the game.
     

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