Cumberland should have caught the ball

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  1. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    It hit cumberlands hands, but it was high and behind him. should he have caught it still? maybe. but if you throw the ball high over the middle, you are playing with fire.

    Watt is a beast. which is why you make damn well sure he isnt in position to make a play when you throw the ball. the first thing you do before throwing to his side of the field is locate him and make sure he isnt in position. if he is, dont throw it!

    the cromartie play is the one im least upset with. at least that was just a physical error and not a mental one.
     
  2. Jim-Jet

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    It would have been a great catch.

    The tip you are talking about was a good defensive play. I think he had two or three other tips. At some point you need to adjust what you are doing.

    The throw to Cro was bad. About ten yards short and right on the sideline if not a bit out of bounds. It wasn't really a back shoulder because Cro had separation behind the DB.
     
  3. Mr. Green Pants

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    The Cumberland throw WAS catchable, but when taken as a part of his entire body of work this season, it's hard to give Sanchez a pass for that play. Delivering the ball to receivers in bad spots, or missing them completely, has been a pretty common theme this year.
     
  4. Jim-Jet

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    I agree - if that was one of the worst throws he has had this season - no big deal - but getting close to a receiver occasionally just isn't going to get it - particularly on crucial plays.
     
  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    It had to be early. It was 3rd and 18 with the game on the line and like most of the night the right side of the line gave up instant pressure. He can't take a sack or throw it away in that spot. He has to press to make a throw downfield.

    Was it high? Yes. Should it have been caught? Probably - it hit him in the hands.
     
  6. Brunell's Debt

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    It was a bad throw, but if you can get your hands on it then it's your responsibility to catch it.
     
  7. catfish

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    it was credited as a drop on PFF...for anyone that follows that site
     
  8. Mr. Green Pants

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    Yeah. I do think it's kinda silly to kill Sanchez for missing Cromartie with that one pass. Going deep is hardly a high percentage play. Plenty of quarterbacks miss on those.
     
  9. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    I would love to see you jump up and catch a ball thats 6 feet above your head,Cumberland can only jump so high
     
  10. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Don't be ridiculous. He jumped high enough because it hit him in his hands.
     
  11. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Bullshit. 6 feet above his head my ass. He jumped he barely stretched his arms above him and it bounced off his hands and went straight up. He had plenty of time to go up and get that ball. He had plenty of time to see the ball coming and it hit his hands. You have to catch that.
     
  12. truthbtold

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    In my mind, the real issue is ... why were we running around like a fucking fire drill, hurrying to squeeze in a play before the 2:00 warning?? Absolutely idiotic. We just took a sack to set up 3rd and 18 ... can we take a break to regroup, and think out our next two plays? It's not as if the game was on the line ... oh wait, it was.
    I guess giving our guys a chance to catch thier breath and focus on the two most important plays in the game, just made a little too much sense to our coaching staff.
     
  13. macbk

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    People frantically calling for Keller to return... what makes you think he is going to be Keller of old? I mean, he has been "nursing" a hamstring injury for weeks (almost a month at this point, which is almost questionable.
     
  14. BakerMaker

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    This pretty much. Not to say we need Gronk or Graham because those are amazing talented athletes at TE but we need something at the position clearly.

    Cumberland almost dropped the surefire TD even....the guy just is not a starter on the NFL and is a fringe NFL player. Sanchez made the throw right there to be grabbed even if it was a tad bit high......that's a play a lot of TEs make.
     
  15. BakerMaker

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    No surprise the Jets lone offensive burst came when a limp Keller served as a decoy vs Buffalo.
     
  16. fltflo

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    That what most of us have been saying all along, the QB is also responiable for making those around him better ! I get so tired of hearing how Mark has no help around him, while true he has many young players he has to work with, he has been starting for 4 years !!!!
    Mark played much better then he did last Sunday, but he must make the throws that give his young receivers a chance. Look again at the game tape, you will see many throws where Mark had more then enough time, yet, he throws high, low and wide of his receivers.. This has been a flaw in his game that he just cannot seem to correct....
     
  17. Ajitator

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    When I first watched the play live it seemed Cumberland cut the route short. I will have to re-watch.
     
  18. ouchy

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    A good professional receiver should catch that ball. An average one no so much. Cumberland is as average as they come.

    The reason this throw and turnover happened was because the tipped balls got into Mark’s head and caused him to start throwing high to that side of the field.

    In general Mark didn’t play that well. Tons of bad throws even though he had decent time to throw – a clearly defined space to step up into – basically really good protection overall.

    And there were open receivers all night long. Surprised no one is mentioning how good of a job the receivers did creating space.
     
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  19. azhar80

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    NFL receivers: You get a hand on the ball= Catchable ball...
    You get two hands on the ball= Easy catch.

    Cumberland had 2 hands on the ball. No it's not a great pass, but that's the difference be between a good receiver and a sub par receiver.

    Heck that was a high screen pass Schaub "according to this board-the new living legend hall of famer" threw to Foster. Foster put up his hand in the sky and snatched that ball, and he's a damn rb.

    Even that perfectly placed td pass Cumberland tried to drop and announcer immediately compared it to sure handed Jumbo Elliott lmao.

    Cmon Man
     
  20. ajax

    ajax Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez didn't make a good throw there & we all know Cumberland is no Tony Gonzalez. At the same time the ball wasn't so bad that receiver had no chance. The QB & receiver both should've executed their roles better on this play. Blame goes on both of them but we all knew Cumberland was not a good receiver beforehand. This why it's crazy to say Sanchez did his job & it was all on the receiver.

    What pissed me off even more was the rush to get the play off before 2-minute warning. It's 18 damn yards on 3rd down & you're offense has struggled for the entire game. Calm the heck down & use the break to think up 3rd & 4th down plays. Total clusterfuck from an OC that crapped the bed. All these substitutions confused Jets so much they were lucky to even have 1 timeout left for the final drive.
     

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