Well it's offseason for us so time to play armchair GM. Lots of this may have been mentioned in different posts under various topics, but looking at the entire picture this is how I hope our new GM tackles the 2013-2014 NYJ and beyond. I think many will agree that for us to build a perennial contender, we pretty much need to forget about 2013 - 2014 as a season of putting out a very good football team. Next year needs to be about finding out about some of our young talent already on the roster while infusing some new draft picks in the mix....all while getting the cap to a manageable level. Here is what the roster should look like. Most importantly, looking at the next 2-3 drafts and finding our QB of the future. QB - Sanchez (ST?), McElroy and T Jackson (with Sanchez's big cap #, we can't and more importantly SHOULDN'T try and do much more. Bringing in a marginal QB by trading ANY picks or paying anything more than peanuts next year would be foolish. Whoever wins the job gets to QB a 4-12 team and Rex Ryan out of town. Congrats. You only win by developing a QB you draft. Unfortunately, we tried to go that route and failed. It’s the ONLY way for sustained success. Look at every roster in the league. Drafted QBs work out, FA can work out if you are taking a risk on a previously injured starter. (Had some thoughts in another post titled “Gotta Draft Your QB". But mostly, trades or FA signings of QBs are a mistake. RB - Powell (ST), McKnight, and Rookie RB and ??FB (maybe Ball, Barner or someone else you can get 3rd round or later. There are no stud backs in this draft, but some depth enough to find a gem after round 3) Hilliard was average at best so FB will need to be addressed via free agency.. Maybe Josh Baker ?(ughh) WR – Holmes, Hill, Kerley, Edwards, Draft pick. Bring back Edwards on the cheap and see what Holmes does after the injury. Pray Kerley continues to develop and pray Hill gets some hands. Then pray more that they stay healthy. Even with that, you have a pretty average core. TE – Cumberland, FA TE – Let Keller walk. Not worth the money IMO OL – Brick, Slauson, Mangold, Vlad, Howard, Draft pick Tackle, Draft pick guard, FA Guard. Kicker – Folk Punter – Malone DL – Coples, Ellis, Wilkerson, Devito, Harrison, FA – Have to let Pouha walk, I think. Does he cost more to cut or keep? Age wise, I would rather have Devito. Love Pouha, but we need to shave some money not just for next year, but the future. LB – Mingo or Ansah (R) , Davis, Harris, McIntrye, Bellore, pick or FA? CB –Revis, Cro, Wilson, Trufant, Berry Safety – Allen, Bell, Bush, veteran FA – we just will not be able to afford Landry, as much as that sucks. Brings us to 46, leaving 7 more spots to fill. Bottom line is this is a year to get under the cap and look for 2014 to be the year of the new coach and grooming of a young drafted QB, while we continue to build a long term roster through the draft. Any other approach, IMO would be stupid and irresponsible to us Loyal Jets Fans.
My 2 bold predictions for Idzik: 1. He will trade Revis for draft pick(s). 2. He will draft a QB between 2 & 3rd.
I definitely agree with #2. Only reason I say maybe not on #1 THIS year is that Revis trade value may not be that great coming off major knee surgery. With the draft in April, his stock will be way to low to get fair value for him, making it a mistake in my opinion to trade him. They will see how he comes back then make a decision after the season on that. If you say in the future and not necessarily this year, I agree.
If we were able to get fair trade value for Revis I would not be opposed to this. Jets are a 2-3 year rebuilding project and not sure how smart it is to have a huge % of your cap tied up in a veteran CB when you are trying to make your roster younger and deeper. Fair trade value to me is a first round pick in the top half of the draft.
I don't think the jets are 2-3 year rebuilding. Once they get a QB who can make throws under pressure we will win and win alot. The problem is the money invested in Sanchez atm Prevents us grabbing or trading for any viable QB(Alex Smith i.e). With this and next years draft to build up the WR, OLB, RB, OL we are ready to compete with our defense. We always put them in bad spots regularly in a game. We need 1 1/2 years (This Full year + Next Years Draft) i believe to be competitive
Good OP. It hits on a lot of things that are issues for the Jets in 2013 and moving forward. The one bone I have to pick is that I think that 4-12 is a possibility next year but not a large one. One of the things I like about the Idzik - Rex pairing is that Idzik is likely to do fundamentally sound rebuilding moves which might lead to a bad record for the year. Rex builds defenses that will mitigate against the worst lows while that is happening. The Jets offense was terrible this year and yet they pulled out 6 wins anyway. I expect them to win 5 or 6 games next year as well despite the fact that it is a rebuilding season. If the Jets avoid the impulse to fire Rex at that point they might well find themselves with a resurgent offense in a couple of years to go with Rex's defense and that's when we'll see the benefit of keeping Rex. The roster will be largely overhauled by that point and any issues that Rex has with veterans in the locker room will have aged out.
Revis, and Keller have to go. You might not maximum value for Revis in a trade, but after the way the Secondary played this year....you never will.
Disagree on Revis You don't piss away a HOFer and the best defensive player in the NFL for draft day spins of the rroulette wheel
The Jets are likely to lose Revis anyway. They don't have the cap space to retain him easily with an extension this year and even if they could the cap would be heavily clogged by his presence just as he hits post-prime. If I were the Jets I'd be regarding Revis as a free agent on a one year contract at this point. I'd make my value judgments of various scenarios work off of that baseline. Think of it this way: how many times have you seen an NFL franchise that had a key player ready to walk for the best possible contract use the franchise tag to keep him for a year to give themselves more time to bring the deal home? Revis can't be tagged. Free agent on a one year deal. That's just what it is.
REvis will hold out this year I think. Crazy I know, but I think he will. Isn;t his contract up after this next year? Isn;t this our only chance to trade him?
REvis will hold out this year I think. Crazy I know, but I think he will. Isn;t his contract up after this next year? Isn't this our only chance to trade him?
This should probably be its own thread (but I don't have enough posts yet to create one), but it looks like this year is really just a placeholder for the new coach/QB combo in 2014. Ted Sundquist, a finalist for the position, pretty much spilled the beans on the "vision" for the NY Green Circus. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1494199-jets-gm-finalist-ted-sundquist-sheds-some-truth-on-the-teams-gm-search
He's not holding out in a year where he has to prove to the NFL that the knee is good. That aside from the fact that if he holds out the last 3 years of his deal with the Jets do not void and he gets to play at $3M a year. Just not happening. Revis will be in camp carefully avoiding contact whenever possible and then he'll play for the Jets next season in a contract year. It should be a glorious thing to watch given that the Jets will finally be facing a bunch of superstar QB's/#1 WR's next year with Pats x2, Saints, Falcons, Ravens, Steelers and Bengals on the schedule.
What defense? Some players on D won't be retained because of the cap. Other players might have to be traded or cut to create space. The linebackers need an overhaul. Revis needs a contract.
If I were Idzik, I would... Embrace the notion that there's no good long-term solution at QB in '13. Resist the pressure from a SB-frantic Woody and the temptation to take a chance/acquire a long term solution QB in '13 (read: not start my GM legacy by taking a chance on someone else's backup). Stay calm and eat the Sanchez contract. Try get Rex playing McElroy the full season (see what we have in him while saving money). Focus on developing whatever talent we can gather in '13. Over the '13 season, be in monitoring mode among the staff on who should be kept for '14. Set up the foundation for the '14 season. Figure out a way on how to secure a quality QB draft pick in the '14 draft. In '14 and onwards, everyone can judge me and that will be MY team. Until then I'll be focused on cleaning this shit up. -
I'm hoping they don't trade Cro,since he's coming off one of his best seasons and he'd probably garner more value instead of Revis being a question mark after the injury.
More bitter blubbering from sunkist the blogger on flunking another NFL interview. In the bleacher report too
My thoughts on Revis: I don't see either Woody or Rex being down with trading their best defensive player. Rex especially would never go for it. The Jets are a very reactive with a win now mentality would make the trade unlikely. We tend to only trade when a player is at their lowest value (see Wayne Hunter). To get the highest value for Revis we would need to play him this year to show he has returned to his hall of fame form. Then trade him. This might be what you would need to do to jump up and get a top 5 QB in the draft. Of course this would be contingent on his contract. Might be if we don't resign him he just walks after next year. Whether it's a good idea to trade, I don't see the Jets doing it as long as Rex is here. I view next year as holding period. If Sanchez/Rex don't improve, both will be gone and we will have to do a compete rebuild 2014. At that point Revis would get traded.
