Future of the Safety Position

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  1. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    So we all know that Dawan Landry was brought in here as a stopgap and will be with us for at most 2-3 years.. He is not the long term solution for us at Strong Safety... With that being said, with the addition of Milliner to the secondary we might not need to draft a safety in the future after all.. Listen to this.

    Milliner is obviously going to start alongside Cromartie at corner this year with Wilson occupying the slot. Landry and most likely Bush will be the starter's in the backfield. Bush is going to learn how to run the defense from Landry and eventually will replace him. Bush's coverage skills are a little spotty so he fits best at the "Strong Safety" position defending the run and playing closer to the line of scrimmage. Once Bush takes this position over in a few years, we will have an opening at "Free Safety"... What if we moved Milliner to free safety since he has had some experience playing the position in college as well as significant time at safety in high school. He has Safety size and has the elite speed to not get beat over the top.

    The Jets ultimate goal is to get Wilson to be a starter at CB permanently since they invested so much into him (1st round pick). As much as I hate that he wags his finger when he did absolutely nothing to affect the play, he seemed to get better and more comfortable with each game. He more than held his own last year against team's #2 receivers and he is only going to get better by learning from Cro. I think the below depth chart gives us a secondary to be reckoned with and we won't have to waste a future draft pick on a safety. Of course this all changes if we don't resign Cro, but I do not think the Jets are going to let him go. They will lock Cro up and he will retire a Jet.

    Projected Secondary Depth Chart in the next 2-3 years.

    CB 1 - Cro
    CB 2 - Wilson
    Slot - Trufant
    FS - Milliner
    SS - Bush
     
  2. MoWilk

    MoWilk New Member

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    Dee Milliner was not drafted to be a safety, nor will he be moved to safety. I don't understand why everyone is always so anxious to move players to new positions. It's clear they don't fully believe in Kyle Wilson and that is why Milliner was brought in... to play cornerback. If they keep Wilson going forward, they'll just use more 3 CB looks on D.
     
  3. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    Would you rather have an elite corner in Milliner and a suspect safety, or an above average corner in Wilson and an above average safety/can possibly be an elite safety in Milliner..

    I am not saying this is going to happen as I would be plenty happy with Cro and Milliner manning the corner positions for the next 5+ years.. I am just thinking about that massive hole that we have in safety, and in today's pass heavy game, you cannot be successful without two good safeties back there.
     
  4. ezio713

    ezio713 New Member

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    There is no way that Dee plays safety. He was the number 1 rated corner on most draft boards. This organization has lost all hope that Wilson will amount to anything special at corner. Depending on Milliner's progress as a pro I suspect that Wilson will not be resigned to any type of long term deal. Cro is great but age will get him at some point. We need a corner for the future with the departure of DR24. Milliner is the TRUTH
     
  5. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    Milliner should be playing the #1 corner spot and we all know that isn't going to happen because Cro is here.. Which I am completely fine with.. It just seems like a waste having an "elite" prospect at the #2 corner when Wilson although not "elite" can hold his own against any #2 WR in the league.. I would rather have that "elite" prospect play a position that we desperately need help at, safety.
     
  6. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    I'm not sure if you are serious or not.

    Milliner is a CB. He was drafted to play CB, he will play CB on the Jets. Yes, we have a hole at safety. We can also fill that void in future drafts. Who knows, maybe our current safeties will play out of their minds this year. You do not fill a hole with someone who has never played the position, let alone someone that is VERY good at what they do.
     
  7. MoWilk

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    I would rather Milliner play the position he was drafted to play. It's clear Rex prioritizes the corner position and doesn't prioritize safety in his scheme. Playing Milliner as the #2 corner opposite Cro isn't "wasting" him and I can't even understand why anybody would think that?
     
  8. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    He played safety significantly in high school and Bama used him back there a few times as well. I'm not saying it's the greatest idea, but it looks like we missed out on a serious safety class this last draft. Hopefully some more safeties step up and we can draft one in the next year or two, I am merely suggesting some viable options that is all. Either way, just having milliner on the field is good enough for me.
     
  9. MoWilk

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    This is like when people wanted to move Cro to Safety because we had Revis.. it was dumb then and it's dumb now. A top corner is more valuable to the Jets defense than a top safety. Why can't we have 2 really good corners and 1 decent one in Wilson and just be happy with that?
     
  10. RochesterJet

    RochesterJet Well-Known Member

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    Jay, waaaaaay to frekin early. I understand this is the offseason and the board is dead (unless you want to bash sanchez)
     
  11. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha just something to talk about.. Is there anybody coming out next year at safety worth looking at? Whether it be via free agency or through the draft.
     
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    DoubleDecker87 Well-Known Member

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    No we should just get a safety that plays safety
     
  13. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    I would deff be down with that.
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    k.w. takes way too muchshit on this board. mostly because he has been behind revis and cro. he is a solid #2 cb and a very good slot cb. he would start for more than half the teams in the league. everybody wantsto point to the over throws, but people don't realize his coverage forces some of those throws. we always assume the other team made a mistake rather than give our guys any credit.
    that said, the o.p is a horrible idea. we need 3 cb's and also to develope atleast one of last years drafted safeties
     
  15. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You are basically suggesting that Rex abandon the philosophy that makes his defense successful by theorizing this outlandish move. He relies on single coverage from his corners so that he can free up one or both safeties to use in his multiple fronts.

    Milliner was drafted because he appears to have the ability to translate to the NFL level as a corner that can handle single coverage without help over the top. Same reason Rex loved Revis and now Cromartie is finally coming around.

    Dee Milliner was not drafted at #9 so he could be moved to a position that he hasn't really played much of since high school.

    Yes, we have a problem at FS. That doesn't mean that you abandon the very thing that allows Rex to scheme around the lack of an all-pro safety.
     
  16. Denny

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    Did Miles fall off the Earth or something? I know he's a rook but he hits harder than Eric Smith. Cant wait to see Miles lower the boom in the pre-season games. It's gonna happen.
     
  17. Dom

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    dee milliner might be an excellent tackler and can blanket a receiver, but his hands are borderline horrendous. i want my FS to be a potential ball hawk. also a secondary of cro, milliner, and kyle wilson sounds amazing to me. wilson gets too much shit, like of course they are going to throw at him when cro and revis are covering everyone else
     
  18. Zach

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    So Jets should move their prized CB to a position he never played in college?

    Brilliant. Simply brilliant.
     
  19. JdotGriff

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    Just to toss this around. To me it makes more sense that K Will if anyone would be the one to get the move to FS.

    His speed and lack up flexibility at the waist and neck have been is only true flaw so far.
    When the play is in front of him he plays like a totally diff guy. Lays big hits wraps up great and has always been good as a run support corner.

    So to me if anyone was gonna get pushed into the back field it would be him.
     
  20. Harpua

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    I was gonna post the exact same thing. The only thing this thread provides is proof that the OP has no fucking clue about how Rex likes to run his defense.
     

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