I'm not saying Simms deserves a shot OVER Sanchez, Geno or GMac. I'm just saying he deserves a shot. Since we're playing our starters well into the 3rd quarter, why not give him a few series and see what he can do? Isn't that the point of talent evaluation? how else can we ever know if we have a potential player there? And re: Woodhead, the cut came down to him or Clowney and we kept Clowney. Now I know Clowney had some good games but one only has to go back to summer '09 to see the ridiculous performances Woodhead put up. Not to mention that his teammates and coaches all loved him. How a guy like that doesn't get a shot in some real action, much less make the team, is beyond me. But I guess Rex knows what he's doing since he keeps trotting Sanchez out there.
It's funny they just finished replaying the ENTIRE game on SNY which I personally sat through to evaluate specific players & of course I really wanted to see Simms again, out of the ENTIRE game INCLUDING halftime interviews et al, guess what was the ONLY thing SNY didn't replay... Simms' scoring drive... things that make you go hmmm.
Why not bring in 2-3 more QBs and lets have a 6 or 7 man competition. Between those demanding a starter for the season be named now and those that want to add McElroy and Simms to the competition and anybody else who can complete a pass in a preseason game, the board is getting out of control. It's going be either Sanchez or Smith to start the season and Smith will be the starter by the end of the season.
I guess ALL UDFA should NEVER even show up to play, I mean what's the point, teams have obviously drafted players instead of them so why should they even bother trying to compete, right... Nice mentality Many players have come out of no where and have been great, the key to that is having a good evaluator of talent who's ego doesn't get in the way of putting a player ahead of one who he has personally chosen, unfortunately I don't think Rex will do that, maybe Idzik will have some influence. Best player should play, PERIOD
I'm sure the reason McElroy and Simms don't get more snaps is because the coaches have seen plenty of what they have to offer in camp for the past 2 years, and they clearly don't see enough in them for a legitimate chance at the starting job. Of course, coaches have been wrong before, but well.... it's just not gonna happen in the end. Doesn't matter if the fanbase likes it or not, it's the overall reality.
When you have the WORST starter in the NFL at QB, why not explore all options on the roster? Playing Simms for 2-3 series with the 1s in pre-seaosn is not going to derail a team that's going nowhere anyways. If a guy on the roster is excelling with backups, it only makes sense to test him with the 1s so you at least know what you have.
The team needs to decide who is going to be the starting QB for the season. One player - Sanchez - is being paid over $10 million this season, so he will be dressed every week. Another - Smith - was considered by many to be the best QB in the draft and is extremely talented. The CS has not seen much from him, but he has had a good camp except for this week when he was hobbled by an ankle. Don't you think the CS and the FO want to see Smith play at least a half or more against the Giants??? McElroy has been here for three training camps now. The CS has seen plenty from him. Simms has played more in preseason now than Smith. Just when do the Jets find the practice reps and the preseason game time to play and evaluate all these QBs?????? Some fans -like you - see a QB play in mop up time in these preseason games against scrubs and execute a TD drive and want to give them the starting QB job. Last week it was McElroy and now this week Simms. It's not that I am against free agents, but there are only so many practices and so much time in a practice. Don't worry, Sanchez will be on the bench before the season ends. The Jets don't need to trot out players like Simms and McElroy to give you your wish.
Aaaah, the Simms QB talk. Simms is the best pre-season QB, ever....EVER. Well, maybe not better than HOF Ring of Honor Pre-season QB Brett Ratliff, but, pretty damn close.
Unfortunately having a howitzer for an arm doesn't make a great QB otherwise Browning Nagle would be one of the greatest ever
I don't wanna see another snap from Simms , in this day and age in the Nfl to be a starting qb you either have it or u don't.I trust our coaches that If Matt Simms was the second coming of Phil Simms we would know about it, he is likely a career backup
With your mentality Drew Bledsoe would have continued being the starter for the Pats and Brady would never have seen the field. Just because you are the anointed starter & get paid mega-bucks doesn't mean you get to keep the job if there is someone more talented & capable than you. But you continue with that mindset., like I said earlier, talent evaluators know that difference, see Belichek with Brady & Parcells with Romo. Coincidentally they both beat out the anointed 1st overall pick in the NFL draft as starter, Bledsoe, one was a 6th rd pick who couldn't even start regularly his senior year & the other was a practice squad UDFA. The former will be a 1st round HOF & the latter owns ALL the Dallas Cowboys passing records, but hey what does that mean because they weren't seen as much by some draftniks.
I believe the coaches and FO have preseason, meetings, discussions, etc to evaluate the players. We just have preseason games. So it's natural we want to see everyone given a shot, but if the FO believes that person is a ready, they aren't ready and it makes sense not to waste the reps. And if we kept Woodhead we would be the 4th string RB? Smith/Greene/LT had nearly 450 carries. The Jets wanted to keep a WR especially probably because Tone was suspended the first 4 games of that season. Woodhead also got a little burn, but basically nothing in 2009. Then in 2010 Woodhead didn't rush the 1st game, ran 3 carries for 12 yards in the 2nd game, did nothing the 3rd game, and rushed for 12 for 45 in the last game. Chauncey Washingrton rushed for 12 for 56 and McKnight 9 for 34 that game. He didn't stand out enough and the Jets needed a WR. That's what happens. He breaks out in 2010 preseason game instead of 2009, he probably stays on the Jets. He just so happened to play at an already established position on the Jets. Bad luck, but there was no way we were cutting a RB out of McKnight (just drafted via trade up), Greene (drafted previous year via trade up), or LT (just signed). And for the fringe players like that, it comes down to special teams. Maybe Westoff favored Clowney, and Rex went with that. Who knows, it's just so misleading to say "player a,b,c,d,e were never given shots" when we don't get to see what the coaches/FO sees every day. We get to see 4 games worth of it, not what they did to lead up to the depth chart, not what happens in between games, not what happens in film study, not what happens in meetings. Brett Ratliff will never be topped.
Easy there buddy. The kid couldn't even hold onto his starting job at Tennessee. He's living on his father's name right now.
So everyone hops onto Matt Simms? What happened to G-Mac? Jets fans sure do love Preseason superstars. Where's Brett Ratliff nowadays?
Has a big arm & has a decent NFL mind(based on reports).That doesn't mean he's the answer at QB. Don't you think if he had any shot at being a starter the jets would have explored it by now? Given all the issues at QB...it kinda goes w/o saying. This is Brett Ratliff & Chuck Clements all over again. People want change for the sake of change.
And there is nothing wrong with that. One up for that type of thought process mezzavo. If we really do have something in Simms? Who knows, but this means we could potentially have something in two other QB's outside of our current 1's and 2's (Geno/Sanchez) in McElroy and now Simms. Which could gain us a net worth of draft picks in which could be used to steal an under the radar type of college prospect at a skilled position. What if a team bites on Greg McElroy (as a well spoken about prospect) and gives us a 5th rounder or maybe even a 4th, for a kid we developed and drafted during the 7th round. Same with Simms. What if we're able to land a 5th or 6th rounder for a kid in which we landed undrafted. And at the end of the day hopefully we've gained nice value out of our 3rd and 4th string QB's and/or who knows in regards to Simms but with McElroy what if Geno becomes our franchise QB (used a high second rounder on him) while McElroy becomes our number one backup once the contract of Sanchez expires or becomes released? This means we could have something at the QB position.
