I'm not too worried about the defense in the face of the no huddle. I remember Rex saying he finally has the core guys to stay on the field no matter what the offense is showing. Last year he had to shuttle 'Can't Wait' off the field and a nickle back on the field on 3rd downs, but the Pats ALWAYS ran up to the line to prevent Rex from subbing, and we got killed. Our LB problem getting to the sidelines is mainly Davis starting for the first time and still thinking way too much. Give him a game or 3 and he'll be flying around out there. Milliner??? Ouch...she couldn't tackle my grandmother last night and always seemed to be giving up the quick slant/curl routs. Obvioulsy he'll be getting way better as the season progresses.
why will davis be good after a few games? he has already played a few games and is just not able to cover people and looks lost most of the time. i dont htink a few games is going to fix that. i hope milliner gets better, he better get better. but how much better will he get
37-13 !!!! "outplayed and out coached" Classic moronic dark sider assessment. Talk about missing the forest for the trees. Newsflash: Football games are 4 quarters einstein. FYI: the object is to score more points than your opponent. the team that was "outplayed and out coached" kicked the shit out of the team that you thought "outplayed and out coached" the team that won the actual football game. Get back to me when you have anything intelligent to offer superfan.
How would you recognize something intelligent? You haven't posted anything resembling that in, like, ever. Forest for the trees? You are talking about a preseason game where half of the players don't even know if they will make the team. You are talking about a game where coaches abandon the true offenses and defenses they have been installing for the first team because the players in the second half don't know what those plays are. Why don't you go ahead and rent one of those revolving spotlights that people usually see at car dealerships, because it it's pathetically obvious that you need as much help as you can get at finding your own asshole in the dark. And get back to me when you have the spine to admit that railing at Mangold for three days about seeing his sister compete in the Olympics was a monumentally dumbfuck thing to post.
I did not see a good run game last night. The big chunks of yards came on the wildcat plays. Most other runs, where stopped behind the line of scrimmage.
brad...excellent points and nice thread. Abyz..Im also with you 100 percent. Just to add to that a bit, I really do not get giving the Jets defense the benifit of the doubt like many posters have mentioned...because the Jags surprised the Jets with a quick tempo? Huh? Shame on Rex and the defense. If that happened in a regular season game, the media rightfully so would be saying Rex has officially warn out his welcome. The defense was a disgrace last night. After every play, I kept pausing to count the linebackers that were on the field. That performance had much less to do with the Jags tempo then it had to do with the prep and energy by the Jets. Sure as hell doesnt look to me like the competition card is playing into this teams energy on the field. Its a preseason game and you can give them a major pass...but if its the defense that is going to keep this team in the games this year, it better show up in a big way against the Giants next week...in a big way. While I understand there is no Sanchez bashing here, if I can just add that playing back the game and watching this kid the first series of the game its Mark Sanchez career in a nutshell. He made some of the prettiest passes I have ever seen him make.....putting the ball exactly where it needed to be..and then poof. O line looked OK. If the Jets can get any play out the qb position, I really do believe there are guys at the WR and TE position ready to make big plays. Kerley is looking like a slot over the middle machine.
AbdulSalam is indeed a crazy guy. Usually people that have said the type of dumb things he has just go back and hit restart. Change their name and start again. Yet he continues to drop in and act condescending when he is one of the more moronic posters on this site. Seriously dude. Just hit reset. Start over. Create a new internet persona and try again. Because you are an idiot as AbdulSalam.
Here are my takeaways from last night, The Good Clyde Gates is gonna make a big impact for us returning kicks this year and hopefully breaks out on offense as well Powell looks like the guy we always wanted Shonn Greene to be he also looks much improved The O line looks real solid Our new OC Marty M is looking like the best offseason aquisition, feels good to finally have a real play caller The Bad Chris Ivorys debut as a Jet was lackluster to say the least It looks like there won't be a "Millners Island" like we all hoped for,kid looked ugly out there Sanchez found a way to ruin everything once again with his shitty redzone int, unless you listen to Hobbes in that case Winslow was to blame:sad: The defense looked terrible as Lame Gabbert looked like The second coming of Dan Marino,I'm not sure if Rex was just holding back so he didn't have to show the league his hand in the pre season, if not the d has a long way to go and hopefully we figure it out before week 1 I didn't like the fact that we risked injurys to the starters by leaving them in till the 3 td qtr, it's just to big of a risk we lack depth and need our starters ,Coples wAs the first to get injured
Quick slant routes are probably the toughest of the routes to cover. The whole point of the route is to throw it immediately before the CB even has a chance to jump the route. Ideally there's a OLB hanging out there to block off that throwing lane and that's the only way to really stop it besides press coverage. I didn't see Milliner playing press coverage and had no inside help. Curls are another story though. Can be tough to judge if the WR can fake a go route well enough. Super easy to cover if a WR is lazy and noticeably slows down. Only problem is sometimes WRs on go routes fake that stop/curl routes to get the CB to jump it, only to accelerate back into a go route. Not as easy to cover as a simple flag/post/seam/etc.
Question: What do teams do differently to prepare their defense for no-huddle offenses? With regards to Milliner, are they being cautious with him because of previous injuries? He was playing a lot of off man even when Cromartie was pressing. My main worry is LB. Watching Harris take the wrong angle and miss the open field tackle on the RB was painful. With the secondary the team has, I'm more worried about how they defend those short dump offs to prevent them from being decent gains.
Unless we run the ball 600 times or Ivory gets hurt, I don't see Powell getting 250 carries. He is definitely a solid back, especially in the WCO, but Ivory looks like a better candidate for the "bellcow" back. He's bigger, faster, and stronger than Powell. Ivory's second and third efforts are really what put him ahead of Powell, though. He's a big play waiting to happen. Even in his limited action last night, you could see people bouncing off of him. I think Bilal got more carries only because they want Ivory to shake the rust off. If Powell could be a Leon Washington type in the passing game and carry the ball out of the wildcat, he will be more than serviceable. I really do like the combo of Ivory and Powell. The third preseason game may be a better indicator of what the carry split and running game in general will look like.
Milliner needs to press when he's in man. He was letting Blackmon get a ton of separation. I don't know if they were trying to prevent injuries or what, but he is too fast and strong to be playing off of the receivers every god damn play.
The wildcat plays? Well, I will respond about the players that mattered in this game, because I stopped watching after the second TD in the 3rd QTR, because I am not watching the scrubs this year. Bilal Powell took two direct snaps during that first half, and no other player did. His two "wildcat" plays accounted for 12 yards and 3 yards. Maybe you should actually pay attention to the game. You really don't know what happened on the ground. All you had to do was find a sports website that lists the official yards to understand how the ground game ended up. Instead, you posted something that was probably fogged by alcohol and also completely wrong.
I've covered this elsewhere. The Jets defense played press at the start of the game. JAX used some agressive pick plays at took corners out of the okay on both sides of the field. I'm not sure if it was a coaching call out just players trying not to get taken out, but after those first few plays where the corners were blocked out of the play, both Milliner and Cro backed off for a while. That's when Gabbert started throwing the quick routes.
One 37 yard carry can inflate a small cross section of stats. But I really liked that carry. For many reasons. One is that Bohanon and the oline sealed off a great lane.
According to NFL.com: 7 carries for 68 yards - 9.7 yards per carry. Taking away the 37 yarder: 6 carries for 31 yards - 5.1 yards per carry. Taking away the wildcat as well: 4 carries for 16 yards - 4 yards per carry. Still looking decent on regular carries as well, which is good, though it's a small sample size. Add in his ability to catch out of the backfield and ability to pass protect, and I'm comfortable with him and Ivory being a backfield committee for this team. I'll be interested to see how Ivory looks pass protection and receiving wise over the next couple of weeks, or rather whether the Jets will use him in that capacity.
Agree with most of what's been said, I'll just add and emphasize: Bohannon has really impressed me so far, especially with his awareness. I might even have to order a #40 jersey if this keeps up. McKnight might be a pro bowl kick returner, but he's probably one helmet-to-helmet hit from ending his career and turning his brain into asparagus soup. And with the way Gates returned, I feel more than comfortable that we'll have excellent returning this year too. Having a precious roster spot occupied by a KR is a luxury no team should be able to afford. That monstrous fucking Robocop arm of Simms deserves another mention. Basically the recurring thing I've heard about him from his coaches, is that he could be the total package, if he only was more accurate. He just might've had a good night, but he looked pretty darn accurate to me... blasting hypersonic bullets across the field. Had a nice calmness to him too. I got an uneasy feeling the J-E-T-S chant will slowly fade away...
