My first thread created ever... wee. Now, to the point: In my eyes, the NFL are amazing at adapting the rules of the game as the physicality of the players' evolve. With that said, I simply cannot admire the play of Goldson tonight (just to rule out my green goggles, I thought Laron Landry had a multiple number of these kinds of hits last season as well) - it will affect the game in a negative way. A in-game penalty is a small price to pay if you get a starter injured for the remainder of the game. Am I wrong, and what your opinions of tonights game vs the Bucs?
His hits were no doubt vicious, and he got penalized accordingly. More and more i'm realizing these rules are probably necessary.
It's football dude this is what happens. These guys are getting paid millions that's there security. Nothing should change,if Gholdson was a Jet we'd all be talking about what a beast he is
I did think the 3 guys that launched head first at stephin hill were a bit malicious personally. There was a lot of head hunting going on this game. Sent from my HTCEVODesign4G using Tapatalk 2
My point is that penalties are not a worthy penalty if you end up injuring a player (most likely the best at his position on that team)... If we get cynical, just to highlight the point further, what if Goldson injured 3 starters in e.g. the first quarter... the value of doing that vs being penalized for X amount of yards will net the Bucs a massive value on the trade over the remainder of the game (the value even increases if the 'hot sauce' was delivered on a division rival who you'll face later in the season).
They were awful calls... I don't know what a db is suppose to do at this point. the 2 flags helped the jets tremendously. I get it, the nfl doesn't want guys getting hurt. Bit how else can they play those kind of pass to cumberland? Does he let him catch it and move out of the way? Does he take out his knees. Its a real problem and not sure what can be done.. ill take the call all day, but I have no idea what that kid could have done differently.
I wasn't sure about the Kerley call, couldn't get a clean replay of it. The Cumberland one they have been cracking down on for a few years now. That hit has to go in the stomach these days or it has to be arms first where the arms are used to pop and you extend your arms to shove the guy.
I saw this mentioned somewhere, I forget where, and its a noble idea but it will never actually happen There was a thought going around that if they injure a player in an illegal hit, they should be out until the injured player is able to come back into the game. I like the thought, but again, it would never happen
You can make more and more rules but I think it's a downward spiral. From what I understand the technology is there to make helmets with better padding but there's some reluctance from either the league or the players or both. I think this is the best solution. You want the players to go hard. At the same time I hate seeing players I admired so much in the past become punch-drunk suicidal shells of their former selves. I'm a big believer in human ingenuity. We put a man on the moon, we can make a safe football helmet. Until we can manufacture football-playing androids and make Tecmo Bowl a reality in the non-virtual world.
I know those hits were to our guys and we don't like to see it, but we like to see it. That's what sets the NFL apart from every other sport. WRs & TEs going over the middle while looking back at the QB NEED to get blasted. I remember an announcer saying Randy Moss had 'alligator arms' when he pulled his arms down to protect himself over the middle when he 'heard footsteps'. hahaha. Pussy.
Maybe all QB's and all star players making more than $8M/yr should wear red jerseys during the game. Yup, that would solve everything. Except for the blackouts from unsold tickets.
I think anytime there is 2 or more defenders closing in on a "monster" tackle, it is now being called a penalty. My wife and I are both Jets fans and thought those were not fouls. Very hard hits. The Cumberland hit, on the 4th angle MAY have been helmet to helmet. Not sure. But he didn't leave his feet to launch, so I wasn't sure why the call. If it was helmet to helmet, they will call it everytime today. The last play foul on Geno, he did not step out yet. I guess they say he was going out. But all he did was get pushed prior to stepping out. I don't know. Just seems the NFL is setup for nothing but offense today and Fantasy stats proved that today. We'll see as season goes on.
A helmet hit to the head has been forbidden for several years Its ridiculous for players to claim surprise about being flagged for hit NFL just paid out $765m to concussion victims over the years Its obvious they don't want anymore head shots BTW, a shot to the unprotected part of the chin, like Cumberland took today, will lead to someone getting killed on the field one day. Its got to be stopped. Its not so hard. Cover better or wrap up. Whether the players like it or not, torpedo shots to the head are out.
On the replay (the luxury of not seeing it live), you could see that Geno's right foot was planted in the white out-of-bounds-area. With that said, a "hit" like that I would have zero problem with not being called. More of a nudge than anything.
Jets have been the victim of many calls like that No need for David to make the play in that situation It was a dead ball when he hit Smith He deserved the call for his stupidity if nothing else. More than a "nudge" BTW
My whole beef is that the penalty for the aggressor should by far outweigh the result of the play. On the Cumberland play, it's not like Cumberland is going for a touchdown if he's allowed to catch it - there's still two tacklers on the play. Then Goldson's lays in on it, accidentally helmet to helmet, and it becomes three tacklers on one player. My personal opinion is that the long-term penalty (suspension, what have you) should be far more severe to the agressor in order to calm the attitude down. If you'd get suspended for 3+ games for a vicious helmet-to-helmet, players would need to adapt accordingly. Would that make it not football anymore? I don't know. What I do know is that I find it fucked up if a player like Goldson tonight can lay the wood on three number of occassions where it's not really necessary (apart from the Hill play where Hill brough that on himself for not laying down) that might cause long-term, possibly career-ending, injuries.
