Goldson blew up Epps knee/leg last year too in the game against SF. I thought both of his hits yesterday were penalties. You can't launch yourself into a defenseless player to try to separate him from the ball. That doesn't apply to low hits, but IMO that is penalty is coming too. It's one of the most dangerous plays in the game and the NFL is trying to eliminate it after paying out $765 million. You can't blame them.
bingo....thats why the fine on this guy with both plays will be record breaking;...thats my prediction. Not once..but twice...if he were a Jet I would feel the same way. Those hits were border line to hurt or worse. He will be fined a HUGE amount of money..wouldnt be surprised if he is suspended. Its got to stop..and the NFL will show you 765 million ways it should be stopped.
So if Polomalu hits your 3rd TE and he shakes his head funny, do your coaches throw a purple flag and scream out "Concussion Protocol! Concussion Protocol!" to get Polomalu out of the game? Then have him walk gingerly to the locker room, escorted by the medical staff, and continue "testing" until the game is over to keep Polomalu out? I get your point, but I just can't see such a rule working.
Yes. And he should. You cam blow up a guy with a shoulder to the chest ...you know that spot where the ball is....ronnie Lott routinely lead with the shoulder and produced far more devastation. Leading with the helmet, (e.g, Spearing ....) has been against the rules for years. Go youtube Lotts Controversial hitt on Bavaro. Forearm poised for a big striking area, shoulder in the chin. No spear. Lott, routinely hit in the proper manner.
the game has already been pussified way to much. if anything, they need to not be so strict. the game is played an insane speed, especially in the defensive backfield. when you have guys covering 20-30 yards at near full speed, its hard to ask them to hold up or make a split second decision...espeically when there job is to tackle/hit guys hard. im fine with all the hits yestarday, its part of the game, unfortunate or not. unless you put flags on these guys or play touch, there will always be hits like that. even more so that you cant maul guys at the line, making it so much more wide open down field. not to mention teams throw 40-50 times regular now a days, so more opprotnuties for hits like this. Weeden and Tannehill combined for 91 passes yestarday. 2 of the worst in the league. 6-8 years ago those guys wouldnt combine for that in the first month. you simply cant have a league that is predicated on throwing 80% of the time, have 3-4 WR sets be the norm, and expect there not to be tons of bad hits
more ridiculous is idiot fans who continue to defend it. those were easy calls. it is the tackler's responsibility to make sure he avoids a helmet to helmet hit, end of story. if he can't do that at the current angle he is taking or speed he is playing at, he needs to either change his angle or slow down. simple as that. or accept the penalty.
actually it is not part of the game anymore, or they wouldn't be penalties would they? and if your argument is dependent on the ridiculously exaggerated position that the only other solution is to put flags on them, then you have no argument. it is just stupid. it is the player's responsibility to control their bodies. the rules are simple.
The guy should be suspended for a game Imo. He seems to be purposely taking illegal head shots that are costing guys playing time.
Youtube Lotts highlights. Forearm up, and shoulder almost exclusively. Technique. You are 100 percent correct.
it being part of the game is irrelevant to whether or not their is a penalty for it. a false start is a penalty too, and is clearly still part of the game. The point was, it is physically not possible given the speeds players are moving at and the fequency of pass plays run to remove it from the game without changing it from tackle football. that was hyperbole a bit, but also... fact. you can fine it all you want, but you arent going to remove those hits, but it just isnt possible to consistently stop guys moving that fast at such long distances to just pull up. in fact, i expect it to stay the same or get worse, as the game is going more and more to a passing league with more and more 3-4 WR sets and more and more downfield passing and more and more young/inexperienced/bad QBs who have no business throwing that much and end up floating ducks deep over the middle.
no, they are different. a false start is a mistake, not an act that the league is attempting to eliminate by penalizing it to change behavior. no, and in fact your statement just defeated your argument. hitting is not the same as tackling. was Goldsen trying to tackle the receiver or hit them? clearly the latter, so it isn't an issue of tackling. yes, they will, save for the mistake here or there. fines and suspensions have already altered the behavior and will only continue to do so. it is the player's responsibility to play at the speed necessary to control their bodies and play within the rules. unfortunately recent history disputes such an assertion. just look at the types of hits that used to occur compared to what currently occur. the behavior has already changed, and it is asinine to claim out of the blue that course will reverse.
Again, Ronnie Lott says hello. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR SPEARING. Its shit technique. The Defenseless receiver rule, was a response to Lotts excellence, but Pearing is spearing.
man JJ..I totally disagree with this. If you want to say they have pussified it for receivers and contact...agreed. If you want to say they are trying to protect the qb? Im all in but they are trying to protect the limitied amount of quality players at the most important position. What I saw yesteday is a miracle. A miracle that several Jets didnt get a concussion only...if they were lucky. The way 38 of the Bucs went directly at the head of those players? I mean...I dont remember a player doing that SEVERAL times during a game. If the NFL took lightly the 765 million they just paid out or the rules to protect player..then a light fine will be issued. I highly doubt thats the case. Those two qbs you mentioned above have nothing to do with pussifying the NFL...nothing to do with it. I think what you are seeing with all the passing is that many NFL teams can no longer run the ball...period. You cant control the game with the run or most teams would do that. You had many teams yesterday that struggled on offense and many teams just couldnt run the ball. Just look at our game...the run defense is dominating in the NFL right now.
You don't have to pull up, you keep your head up, wrap up and drive through. The launching at the other player has become more prevalent over the years because defensive players are looking for the shot for the highlight reel. There were plenty of hard legal hits yesterday, proper tackling technique can produce vicious hits also there is just a lot less chance of a player getting injured.
factually wrong on all points. if you want to discuss it, fine. if you want to blow smoke up everyone rear then why bother posting? these hits ARE mistakes. just like a false start is. its human error. there simply isnt anything you can do to take that out of the game, other then to take tackling out of the game. humans arent capable of consistently running at top speed, towards a target, for long distances, then stopping or changing in a split second. there are always going to be bad hits and bad collisions. its physics. its a limitation. there are major fines and suspensions, yet we just see more and more of these hits every year as the pass attempts rise every year. the behavior HASNT changed! we are seeing vast increases in hits. the only thing that changes is the leagues response to it. they made there own bed by changing rules to make it more of a downfield passing league,... these are the ramifications of it
most teams cant pass the ball either. take a look at the horrific passing numbers around the league. YES, the good ones have great numbers, but on the other end, the bad ones have pathetic numbers. give a good qb more attempst the numbers look great, give a bad qb more attempts and the numbers look horrific. the main thing is, there is just MORE passing. like exponentially more. and the more bad passing you have from bad players the more opportunties for guys to get hit hard and hurt.
The behavior has certainly changed.We see much fewer big hits separating the receiver from the ball, particularly over the middle of the field. It's one of the reasons for the bloated passing statistics we've been seeing. Let us know when guys start getting fined for false start penalties.
