Rex Ryan + Marty Mornhinweg = success

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  1. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    And 99% of the time it is not the hc making the call but the bum in the booth and the Jets have to seriously think about taking the call out of that guy's hands. Ryan doesn't have the luxury of reviewing the plays and making the decision himself.
     
  2. Mr. Green Pants

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    Yeah, I don't get why so many people are ignoring this. Unless it's painfully obvious a call was blown, it's not the Head Coach making the decision on the challenges.
     
  3. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    The only member of the CS I have issue with is Tim McDonald (DBs coach). I'm not sure where he's come from or his resume , but this is his first year with us and so far I am far from impressed.

    Under Idzek I hope our talent scouts improve as well.
     
  4. GordonGecko

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    It is the HC, the guy upstairs lays out what he sees and describes everything, and the call is up to the HC based on that
     
  5. Mr. Green Pants

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    How often does a HC go against the recommendation of the guy in the booth? I doubt it happens very often.
     
  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Which is another way of saying exactly what we said. If he says it was dropped Ryan will challenge it. If the refs then don't overturn it it is on the guy in the booth. Ryan certainly won't challenge it if he hears it is a catch. It is the guy in the booth making the call.
     
  7. Big Blocker

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    The situation is not perfect. There were the two 12 men in the huddle penalties, which need to be eliminated. I also thought Rex was wasting a time out on his red flag in the first half ( although it didn't really cost them - it could have).

    But the big picture is the coaching has vastly improved. Rex focuses on the D, and Marty takes caer of the O. The basics are in place.
     
  8. gustoonarmy

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    Spot on. Rome wasn't built in a day...and all that :wink:
     
  9. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I love the configurations Marty is coming up with on offense.

    I really could do without the wildcat.

    The questions is:

    Will Rex allow Marty to draft offensive weapons or will we continue to stock pile the defense?
    We really need playmakers.
     
  10. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    The wildcat throws the D. The same personnel walk out for pistol formation. I like the fact that Ds are constantly having to shift and adapt. The results from the 'cat aren't that bad actually
     
  11. DarrelleRevis.Human?

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    Rex's brash, emotional, high wired style I think is/will be grounded by the level headedness of Idzik and Marty.

    Rex is almost like a player in that he's got so much talent but he needs people around him to help keep him inline and focused. Much as a veteran locker room will do for raw players. I know, I know, it's always what's new always seems better but I think it's safe to say these things have changed in the last 5 years:

    Rex = a much more matured coach that is really finding his way as a HC

    Marty = I'm not going to tout him as great, not yet. but lets face it we went from Schotty to the micro machines guy, and 5 games in with MM I know we're better off no question

    Idzik = yet to be proven a truly good GM but Richardson and Geno is a good start, as I said his calm conservative mentality helps balance out Rex
     
  12. Big Blocker

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    The Jets have had mixed success with the wildcat in the past, and I am opposed to overuse of it.

    But I think particularly with a rookie Qb Marty is using the wildcat to near perfection. Different plays out of similar sets. Putting the RB rotation to good use. Giving Smith a play off at key times. Marty's approach is to use the wildcat to present more looks to and more confusion for the opponent.

    I think it's working.
     
  13. Skicats

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    I definitely didn't ignore the challenge last night. Bad move again. Even Gruden said that the receiver took 3 steps before the fumble, kind of hinting that it was a stupid call to throw the flag.
     
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    Yep and if the guy upstairs says it looks like the ball wasn't secured before the 2 steps, Rex will challenge. Bad challenges are usually not the fault of the head coach. We need to get a better guy upstairs reviewing these plays because obviously he's recommending that Rex challenge when he shouldn't. Although it was worth the chance in that last one because it was a big play and it wasn't sure that he secured the ball. It was worth a closer look.
     
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    The guy upstairs reports to Ryan.

    Seirously, I could not believe they threw the flag. There was nothing there. Gotta be smart.

    But still a solid effort for the CS.
     
  16. pdxdrew

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    Its amazing the results we've gotten by the staff with MM, Rex still has his positives and negatives. I hope they dont get rid of anybody because it wouldnt stunt the growth of Geno Ice Smith.
     
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    I think we also have to give some credit to the Ben K as well. While the kickoff return team hasn't been spectacular, our special teams have been extremely solid this year. I think part of the problem last year was lack of depth players which shows usually on special teams, but special teams have been a real strength starting with the coverage units to Quigley to of course, Folk who has been cash. And most people might have thought this unit would take a step back with Westy leaving.
     
  18. pclfan

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    I didn't like the challenge. There was no way to win it. And you saw what happened the previous week when he ran out of challenges. I hated the coverage and Matt Ryan who is very good did complete a very high percentage of his passes. You don't give an elite Qb like him that kind of cushion to work with. But I loved the result. Too bad we had to rely on another good FG by Folk to win with no time left on the clock after giving up a decent lead when our Dbs and soft coverage allowed them back into the game. This was not a great win by no means. But it shows the Jets can be a competitive team.
     
  19. Green4ever

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    At least 4 of the first 5 rounds if the draft next year need to be offense for Marty. WR, G, TE and RB. Rex needs a safeties and LB depth.
     
  20. LAJet

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    One hundred percent correct. Right on the money. I would add that these type of errors are occurring to every single coach on every single NFL team. Rex will get better in that area, but he is maturing leaps and bounds and making the Jets team competitive. He is giving the team an identity and they are playing aggressively on both sides of the ball. Not to mention how damn good he is doing these days in front of the shitty Media.

    Picking on the 5% element of HC associated with the overblown challenge flags is getting old. There is a pair of eyes up in the booth that sees what we see and should better counsel Rex.
    As for the 2 points, half or more of then experts always say you should not go for the 2 point conversion when you have plenty of time on the clock. You narrow the marging and you trust your D to give you the ball back. So there is a lot of judgment there. Q

    Rex to me is by far the best coach we could hope for at this point in time. Him and MM are perfect for each other.
     

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