I see something special when I watch this team now

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  1. Brook!

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    Excellent post. Future is really bright. If we spend the money wisely next year in Free Agency and draft solid players we will challenge Pats for the Division.
     
  2. Harpua

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    I would not expect a big free agent spend next season. Tanny's cap mess is still getting cleared up. We will have dead money from Sanchez to deal with. Holmes and possibly Cro could fall into that category as well. Then looking at our roster Wilk is not far off from a new big time deal. Howard may need to be addressed if he is not replaced. Same for Colon at guard. Idzik is a cautious man with long term goals. I don't think what we saw in Miami this offseason is happening any time soon in NY.
     
  3. CurbYourEnthusiasm

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    Good post. Keep in mind all the financial flexibility we have next year. We will be VERY much under the cap.
     
  4. LAJet

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    Great post, on the money in my book.

    I do take a different view however with the OP offensive line assessment. I think Howard has been remarkable this year and a steady contributor. His value has gone appreciably up, while IMHO DeBrick is having a less than stellar season to say the list.

    There should not be a big splash in free agency in 2014, but rather cautiously protect with new contracts the talent that we have, close on a couple of bad investments, i.e. Sanchez, and depend on the draft to keep the youth movement going.

    DRAFT - We need to continue to develop depth in the OL, bring in talent in the secondary and WR position, may be even TE and for sure speed at the LB position

    I like the direction this team is going with the new GM. Oh, I almost forgot, for Pete's sake, let's not screw around with the coaching staff at this point.
     
  5. Mitch_Dumstein

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    Great post


    the future is bright for the Jets with a terrific headcoach, a quarterback who gets it, a defensive front that is a BEAST and a General Manager that has, in a very short period, cleaned up the mess he was left and has us ready for an offseason with 12 draft choices and significant available money under the cap
     
  6. Wahoo

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    Geno Smith, a cornerstone of the franchise, after 7 games? Let's not go crazy. He still has a lot to prove.
     
  7. BookEndTackles 72&79

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    This fallacy of 12 draft picks keeps being repeated over and over like it's a fact and foregone conclusion. We are NOT getting a draft pick for each UFA that was lost. No one really knows what draft picks are coming as it's a complicated formula based on net players gained/lost in FA, net FA playing time, net FA production and net salary gained/lost in aggregate.

    Jets lost DeVito, Greene, Bell, Slauson and D. Landry who signed with other clubs. Jets signed Goodson, Winslow, Colon and Laron Landry after their contracts expired.

    As it looks now on balance the Jets will probably come out ahead based on the formula but it won't be anywhere near 4 additional draft picks. There might be a couple of instances where a team got 4 picks but these signings don't rise to that high a profile to award four choices. It might end be ONE pick at the end of the 4th or 5th round or 2-3 picks at the ends of Round 5-7 depending on how it's all calculated in the end. 7th round compensatory picks are essentially UDFA's anyway once you reach that point in the talent pool. I'd take a flier on a punter in the 5th, 6th or 7th.
     
  8. Footballgod214

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    True, true, but keep in mind we DO have Tampa's 3rd round pick, which at this point in time looks to be pretty close to a 2nd round pick.
     
  9. Korz

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    probably my favorite thing that i've read on this site so far
     
  10. Mitch_Dumstein

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    They also lost Keller UFA to Miami. I also believe that Winslow was not a UFA after playing only one game last season and one of your other listed signings had also been released, thus not a UFA that gets into the equation. I think the four number is accurate.

    The downer on the draft is that the Bucs may just send Mevis, Shwartz, Feinsod and Uncle Sean packing before day 3 of the new league year causing the third to revert back to a fourth

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  11. dawinner127

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    The team was so boring to watch last season
     
  12. FJF

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    actually all those players were cut and there for do not count against the comp picks. it was a very calculated move by idzick to coupe as many picks as possible in the 2014 draft. so yes the 12 is a real possibility
     
  13. Royal Tee

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    That part right here...

    I've been tootin that horn since he got here... Finally an OC who has ballz!!
    also knows wtf he's doing and actually COACHES!!!
     
  14. Br4d

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    Wilkerson is getting the big deal at the end of this season. Next year DeMario Davis and Quinton Coples will be up for new deals. The year after Sheldon Richardson and Geno if he turns out to be the answer.

    You can only pay a few guys big bucks under the cap. Figuring out who to pay is the largest part of the conundrum of how to build a great team.

    Paying other people's players instead of finding and paying your own is the biggest mistake a team can make if they want to be highly competitive on a yearly basis.

    The only way to put together a big winner over any span of time is with the cheap young talent that the draft provides. That's where you can beat the cap. That's the margin between a decent team and a great team. Then you just have to figure out who among the cheap young talent should get the big deals.

    Right now the answer looks like:

    2014 - Muhammad Wilkerson, Jeremy Kerley (big for a slot/3rd receiver or he'll be looking at free agency in 2015)
    2015 - DeMario Davis, Quinton Coples
    2016 - Geno Smith, Sheldon Richardson

    Add on to those guys Nick Mangold and D'Brick and you are talking all the big money the 2016 Jets will have to spend. Everybody else on that team of real value is going to have to be on a rookie deal or overperforming a journeyman contract.

    If Dee Milliner, Brian Winters, Jeff Cumberland, Stephen Hill, Austin Howard or Antonio Allen really takes off and deserves a big deal the Jets will have a nasty cap issue as it is.
     
  15. Br4d

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    Yes, the Jets built-in a huge draft in 2014 as part of the rebuild process. This is the same thing the 49ers did in 2010, coming off their 6-10 wake-up call season.

    It's a proven way to infuse a bunch of young talent on a roster. Live through the spike year not signing free agents to bulk up and letting your own late prime guys go and then profit the next season.
     
  16. Mitch_Dumstein

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    They need one big contract extension this season that will keep the Jets moving ahead for years..

    And best of all, it involves NO cap hit at all

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  17. RubenDias

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    If we dont abuse in free agency we will have cap to sign all this people you mention above.
     
  18. FJF

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    as soon as i had seen what he was doing i knew we had the right guy to rebuild this. now he still has to draft well and hit on his f.a. signings so i won't call him great or anything, but the principal of the plan is great .
     
  19. truthbtold

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    He's getting older and no longer elite. He's still serviceable, but ifnot the next draft, then certainly in 2015, I think we should use our #1 pickmto draft the best LT available and transition Brick to RT for what's left of his career.
     
  20. BrowningNagle

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    You are getting way to far ahead of yourself. Wilkerson is about the only guy worth / timely enough to be thinking about contract-wise.

    Rest of the guys are either way to early to even be in the thought process, not worthy /who cares, or could be too old in 2015/2016 to even care.

    I'd even venture out to say the guy who will have and probably deserve to have the biggest contract on the team in 2016 might not even be on this roster yet
     

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