2013 Draft Do Over

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  1. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    1A Sheldon Richardson DT
    1B. Cordarelle Patterson WR
    2. Geno Smith QB
    3. Brian Winters G
    4. Chris Ivory RB (pick Traded To Saints)
    5. Kenny Stills WR
    6. Spencer Ware RB
    7. Tommy Bohannon
     
  2. DoubleDecker87

    DoubleDecker87 Well-Known Member

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    1. Sheldon, Dee (Tavon over Dee but it just wasn't meant to be)
    2. Geno Smith
    3. Keenan Allen WR
    4. Chris Ivory RB
    5. Kenny Stills WR
    6. Kenjon Barner RB
    7. Zeke Motta S

    Didn't realize how much talent at the skill positions we passed over for a converted d lineman and backup tackle until I just now looked it over.
     
  3. NoodleArm

    NoodleArm Well-Known Member

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    Agreed with some of your picks.

    1(009): Sheldon Richardson DT
    1(013): Cordarelle Patterson WR
    2(039): Larry Warford OG
    3(072): Mike Glennon QB
    4(106): Traded for Christopher Ivory RB
    5(141): Kenny Stills WR
    6(178): Bacarrii Rambo S
    7(217): Tommy Bohanon FB

    It's really all water under the bridge at this point. Some players play better in different systems, and what not.
     
  4. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    Gio Bernard we obviously whiffed on.
     
  5. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I definitely would have loved that draft!
     
  6. 74

    74 Well-Known Member

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    Noodle Arm nailed it.

    and about Gio, he was taken in the second well ahead of our pick, and sorry RB's should not be taken in the first in today's day and age.
     
  7. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Idzik really needs to bring his A game this offseason. I didn't like the two offensive lineman he took at 5 and 6. The Jets just are not that good converting players and there was decent value still on the board. Some players he should get in free agency but his first 3 picks in this draft need to be offensive. I cannot remember the last time the Jets needed such an influx of talent on one side of the ball.
     
  8. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    Of course you take a RB in the first if he produces as well as Bernard has. He's way better than Milliner after one season. No comparison.
     
  9. NYJalltheway

    NYJalltheway Well-Known Member

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    Even tho Gio had a much better rookie season, RBs can be found day after day, and A+ potential CBs don't come around all that often. To say you would take Gio right now on this team over Dee is just stupid. We don't need a RB anyway. I mean yes I'd like him too, but CB is already a big weakness on this team, so take out the only young player showing potential, and you have a college rank CB group moving forward.

    No way you take any RB in round 1, unless they are Peterson good. It sucks not having a Martian on our team anymore, but deal with it. Our running game not being as elite as it was in 2009,2010 is a lot more to do with the OL, rather than the RB.
     
  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I still don't understand the Campbell pick. That's a guy you try to sign as a UDFA after the draft not a guy you spend a pick on.
     
  11. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Faptastic selections!
     
  12. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    The title of the thread is Draft do over. If you were doing the draft over today you would have to be pretty foolish to not take Gio over Milliner by a wide margin. Showing A+ potential doesn't really matter when you're not producing. Seriously, A+ for Milliner, that's reaching a bit, no? Dee was awful for most of this season and that's a fact. You have no idea if he'll ever produce at the same level that Bernard did in his rookie year. Bernard is one of the top 4 or 5 candidates for Offensive ROTY. So based on that, yes top 10 sounds about right and similar to where Dee was taken if you do the draft over. And Bernard's only going to get better with more carries as he's in a timeshare now. Our running game is average at best and the yards per game has more to do with an inept passing offense than elite RB's. Also you don't reach for need. The point of the draft is to take BPA and Gio would qualify as a top 10 BPA from his draft class at this point in his career. CB is still a big weakness on this team.
     
  13. The 1985er

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    But he was the "best player available"
     
  14. Sloup

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    I like Kenny Stills, but I'm not sure he would have fixed the offense. We'd still probably want another WR this year.

    Edit: That's not to say I would have disliked the pick, just that he wouldn't have been as successful with the Jets as he's been with the Saints.
     
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    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    I liked our selections in the first 3 rounds. We messed up a bit in the mid rounds. I understood the logic behind it. They wanted to build up the o and d lines.
     
  16. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    That is more like it.
     
  17. strngplyr

    strngplyr Well-Known Member

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    Still taking Dee in rd 1 when guys like Logan Ryan were available in 3? Kinda silly. You can find a much better impact player at 13 (or take Geno early to avoid losing the Keenan Allen pick) and get a better corner in round 3.

    Dee Milliner in 747 snaps:
    53/103 (51.5%) 770 yds (14.5) 7TD/3INT/11PD 86.6 Passer Rating allowed

    Logan Ryan in 607 snaps:
    27/53 (50.9%) 372 yds (13.8) 3TD/5INT(1 pick 6)/6PD 53.3 Passer Rating allowed (1.5 sacks on corner blitzes) and 1 FF

    Outside of redrafting Dee that haul would have probably had you guys in the playoffs assuming production was the same as they had on their current teams.
     
  18. DoubleDecker87

    DoubleDecker87 Well-Known Member

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    May be silly but Id rather have the December defensive rookie of the month
     
  19. Rockinz

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    9. Richardson
    13. Patterson
    39. Mathieu
    72. Allen
    141. Stacy
    178. Ellington
    215. Bohanon
     
  20. strngplyr

    strngplyr Well-Known Member

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    Dee played great in December for sure, but is the final 1/4 of his season what he will actually continue to be? I can ask the same about Logan as a rookie since guys like McCourty took a collossal step back in year 2 (before rebounding strongly in 3 and even more so in 4) but the first 3/4 of Milliners season DO mean something.

    And for comparison, the December stats of the 2:

    Dee Milliner:
    19/38 (50.0%) 192 yds 1TD/3INT/5PD 40.6 Passer Rating

    Logan Ryan:
    8/16 (50.0%) 130 yds 0TD/2INT/2PD 38.0 Passer Rating

    A case could have easily been made for either. Not sure why Dee was targeted so much, he had a pair of games where he was targeted 18 and 13 times (wk 16 and 17 repectively).
     

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