Double TE set plan?

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  1. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    I don't get this obsession with TEs.

    Of all the TEs drafted every year, there is maybe 1 like every 3 years which actually turns out to be a difference maker. And they're almost never taken in the 1st round. VD is a rare exception.

    Vernon Davis (1st)
    Jimmy Graham (last pick of 3rd)
    Gronkowski (2nd)
    Jordan Cameron (4th)

    Whereas the list of 1st round TEs who turn out to be busts or "just another guy" is 10x as long.

    Personally, I'd rather not see the Jets end up with another Kyle Brady, Anthony Becht, or Johnny Mitchell. Almost forgot Dustin Keller, too.
     
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  2. Jets4eva9011

    Jets4eva9011 Well-Known Member

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    If we went by this logic, then the Lions wouldn't have drafted Calvin Johnson so high because they had experienced busts at WR with so many other high picks on them.

    If Ebron or Amaro are BPA at 18, you draft them. I'm a huge fan of Amaro personally. Would love to see him end up in green and white.

    Guys like Graham and Cameron turned out well, but it's really hard to find a great TE at those spots typically. After Ebron, Amaro and ASJ; the quality of TE's falls.
     
  3. TNJet

    TNJet Well-Known Member

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    I say we keep Winslow. He has heart.
     
  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    It's an intriguing idea for sure, but I don't think it fits into Mornhinweg's west coast offense. While the offense is predicated on shorter passes, we RARELY use two tightends even when Cumberland and Winslow were healthy.

    While tightend might not be a weakness, as stated earlier it's definitely not a strength. A big time receiving tightend is a young quarterbacks best friend, and with the depth at both tightend and receiver in this draft we should be able to get two playmakers.

    We're also looking to make a playoff push and tightends tend to transition a bit better than wide receivers do. Hence why I'd say we get a big time tightend and perhaps the most NFL ready receiver (polished route runner, trusted hands) rather than someone who has the higher ceiling, especially given the fact that he likes to spread the field and so does Geno. Gotta play to the system and players strengths rather than just take the next guy on the big board.
     
  5. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Ditch all TEs on roster except cumberland maybe use him as depth at num 3
     
  6. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    You don't get this obsession with TEs? They can be game changers ,they aren't normally taken in round one unless they look like pure beasts,this is most of the productive TEs drafted in round 1 since 1990,Dustin Keller was a good TE but never great and kinda soft,And Jets drafted two first round TEs since 1990 Keller and Kyle brady at num 9 pick in 1995.Unless the TE looks like the second coming of Tony Gonzales id wait to round 2 or 3

    Brandon Pettigrew drafted round 1 pick 20
    Jeremey Shockey-round 1 pick14
    Tony Gonzalez-round 1 pick 13
    Greg Olsen-round 1 pick 31
    Todd Heap-round 1 pick31
    Heath Miller-round 1 pick30
    Dallas Clark-round 1 pick 24
    Kellen Winslow-round 1 pick 6( was good in his prime but a reach by Browns)
    Jermaine Gresham-Round 1 pick 21
     
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  7. semperfigreen

    semperfigreen Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately the New York Jets have been 0 for 3 in producing a pro bowl caliber tight end with Brady, Mitchell and Keller.
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Keller had the potential as a pass catcher. He always ran great routes and was relatively sure handed. His problem was his one dimensional play. The Jets often took him off the field when they were running the ball because he struggled in particular against bigger 3-4 backers.
     
  9. socaljetfan

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    You guys forgot Becht, make that 0 of 4.
     
  10. RexontheBeach

    RexontheBeach Well-Known Member

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    freakin love it
     
  11. RexontheBeach

    RexontheBeach Well-Known Member

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    We have a decent squad to the point where drafting a couple playmakers at WR now could make us a legitimate playoff contender next year and for years to come. I think it would be best to test FA waters for a TE. If you're not a jimmy graham, vernon davis, jordan cameron, Gronk, etc.. (2 of the latter with one of the 4 elite qb's throwing to them) you virtually have no advantage against todays speedy and physical NFL linebackers. We should wait until at least the 3rd to take a stab at an athletic TE, given one is not available in FA.
     
  12. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Even Aaron Hernandez was drafted in fourth round murder or not guy was good,if he got off on charges I'm sure a " Hernandez A Jet?" Thread would pop up
     
  13. socaljetfan

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    He would have gone in the first round if it wasn't for the now resolved character questions.
     
  14. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    There's something seriously wrong with our scouting department
     
  15. rohirrim665

    rohirrim665 Well-Known Member

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    I would like an upgrade at the TE position.
     
  16. rohirrim665

    rohirrim665 Well-Known Member

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    I like the way he played this year too, but does he have the knees? Wouldn't mind him on a 1 year vet minimum.
     
  17. Jetaho

    Jetaho Well-Known Member

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    If we want to draft a playmaking TE, it'll have to be an early pick. The TE class is pretty thin, especially when compared to the WR class, which is deep as Hell. Aside from Amaro, Ebron, and ASJ, there's isn't much IMO. I'd only be fine with drafting a TE early (possibly trading down) if all of the top 3 WRs are gone by the time we pick.
     
  18. RexontheBeach

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    I wouldn't mind us snagging a RB late that can catch the ball and compliment ivory as a change of pace. Powell is good, but not a game changer, he's just average all around. Look at how much a pass catching RB helps Alex Smith, and he has decent wrs to work with. There looks to be a good crop of rbs that will likely get overshadowed by the overwhelming talent available at positions on the defense and especially at wr.
     
  19. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    You're also talking one of the best runningbacks in the game. We're not going to find a playmaker like Charles outside of maybe giving De'Anthony Thomas who may not really amount to anything outside of a kick returner anyway.
     

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