Stephen Hill blows - Geno Smith played better when Hill wasn't starting and Nelson was getting the bulk of the carries. If we played the Bills 16 times then Hill would be a great addition.
Now...I definitely am on the page that Hill, if the 3rd WR or lower should be seen on special teams. I would view it as an incredible waste of a roster space if he didn't.
Hill is a major bust at the top of the 2nd round but it all on Tannyidiot. Trading up for somebody as raw as Hill made about as much sense as Birdbrain Boobway trading TWO first round picks and a 4th round pick for DeWayne Robertson.
I like to think of Tanny as having multiple personalities, and I don't think it's fair he got fired for roster moves only one of his personalities made. Like signing Tebow was The "Tanzmanian Devil" And when he extended Sanchez he was Mike Taninlove (And honestly, who wouldn't be?)
Meh, he was totally settling with a guy like Sanchez, But Idzik? Idzik can really pick 'em: sigh... hes so dreamy... ...I-I mean he's like a dream on the field, so signing him long term was a really good idea, yeah thats it... BTW, while I'm on a faux homoerotic tick, I remember seeing a commenter on the CBS website make an argument that the Jets only sign players that are pretty boys which is the only reason they even got these two, people get DUMB when it comes to theories on the Jets struggles I swear.
You know what's funny, I was thinking to myself not too long ago that it kind of seems like the Cowboys do that, but obviously it's not really true. Or is it... No wonder they suck, football players should look tough like this: or this
I feel like I should actually contribute to the topic at hand... Decker's main impact on Hill will be replacing him permanently as a key piece in the offense. reading this article shows just some of the ways:http://turnonthejets.com/2014/04/new-york-jets-eric-decker-will-help/ In a way decker can provide everything hill couldn't save for above average speed. His positive effects on Hill's development as a receiver will be minimal since, while he seems like a good teammate that can help him out but in camp, Hill's a third year player only two years behind ED and there shouldn't exactly be a big mentor-aprentice relationship between these two young vets. hell Hill should almost be able to be a mentor to some OTHER rookie by now and its not as if veteran leadership is whats gonna put Stephen over the Hill anyway (ba-dum-tsh) Now to be fair to Hill he was put in a bad position to develop, he was miscast as a player ready to contribute heavily as compliment to Holmes the premier receiver and shouldn't have bee expected to do so. With this in mind, perhaps the best thing Decker can do for him is lighten his load as an important piece of the offense and help him get open as Hill becomes a less covered option, but even THAT requires Hill to step up win the ball comes his way. He simply has to DO, theres no big secret to helping him that can be used at this point and just because he's a project that doesn't mean the team or his teammates have to hold his hand forever and be eternally patient with him. Upside be damned, all the potential in the world means nothing if one can't do anything with it, and while playing in different circumstances could have been beneficial to him as player in the long run the jets shouldn't feel and thankfully aren't feeling obliged to keep with him just for the sake of trying to rectify those past mistakes. he has horrible quirks about his game that hold him back, if he can't surpass them, play to his size for once and become a reliable contributor at this point he needs to go. (unless theres nobody better on roster despite this) He should ABSOLUTELY be given one last chance to prove himself this year, but even a project needs to yield results over time. the best thing Decker will do for him is take one bit of pressure off and allow him to form his own niche as a home run hitter on the offense, if he can't do THAT then no regrets.
I don't see Hill as a lock to make the roster this year. I think the coaches are probably tired of waiting for him to emerge at this point, and are going forward with the assumption that he is a bust, rather than going forward with the hope that he will turn into the guy they hoped he would be. They will keep him for training camp, and see if suddenly the light switch turned on for him, but if not, they're probably likely to cut ties with him in the final roster cutdown. Also, remember that the Jets are considered likely to take 1 - 2 wide receivers in the first 3 rounds. With Cooks or whomever, and Decker- those are going to be the main two guys, with Kerley in the slot. Then Nelson will be in the 4 receiver sets... and remember we have Ford on the roster - he'll be mostly a return guy, but he's still a wide receiver. If the Jets also take a receiver in the 3rd round (and supposedly there are starting-quality receivers projected to be available into the 3rd round) then it gets very hard to see where you'd fit Hill on the roster.
While I'd like to see the Jets take a couple of receivers in the first three rounds, I don't think it's all that likely. Hill may very well end up a second tier depth chart receiver depending on how the draft falls. I also don't consider him a lock, though. If real prospects at the position fall to them in the first four rounds, he could be waived shortly before September.
I haven't given up entirely on Hill. But it kills me going back and seeing this. The scouting reports were dead-on accurate. All of this was known well in advance. Yet Tannenbaum, Bradway, and Co. played the sucker, trading up to reach for this guy based on need (or what's more insane, having a "mid-1st round grade" on him) when lanky beast Alshon Jeffery was still on the board. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/stephen-hill?id=2533537 He is a splash player who was No. 1 in the nation in yards per catch; he has fourth-round value based off his all-around body of work but could impress a team with his size and speed enough to ascend significantly throughout the pre-draft process. Weaknesses Hill's value is based purely off his ability as a deep threat. He has average quickness and moves off the line of scrimmage to avoid a jam. He ran a very basic route tree at Georgia Tech that didn't allow him to showcase many skills. Outside of catching jump balls, he struggles to read coverages and understand how to find holes in a zone. Hill looks uncomfortable with the ball in his hands and resembles a lengthy track star on the field instead of a football player. He dropped as many big balls as he made big plays; his YPC stat defines him perfectly as a player who is capable of making flash plays but isn't reliable.
That seems accurate based on what we've seen from Hill so far. But let's forget all that, I'd rather blame the QB for his shortcomings.
Why would you blame Geno? I really want Hill to succeed but his inability to stay healthy, his inability to consistently get open and his drops have very little to do with Geno. _
Geno Smith was seventh-best on deep throws, completing 46.7% of passes 20 yards or more downfield. Stephen Hill's so called skill-set in the NFL is being a deep threat. Stephen Hill deserves the majority of the blame.
Didn't you watch him in 2012? He proved that notion completely false. Don't get me wrong, his timing has been off and he had tons of drops that year, but he showed that he can indeed get separation and can make those double moves to get open. He's not strictly a run straight deep guy lol. In fact i thought that his short game was better than his deep game. People like this crack me up. I didn't like Tanny trading up all the time either, but calling Hill a bust after just 2 seasons with 2 separate QBs (bottom of the league QBs at that), in 2 separate systems is absurd. Hill had better timing with Sanchez, but he dropped a lot. With Geno they just never really got on the same page in WCO. I saw the kid get separation numerous times, but Geno wasn't ready to hit him yet. I think the majority of his issues are with WCO timing in the progression of QB reads. He's either making his move too early or too late. It's certainly a bit premature to give up on him. He's got a lot to learn and he's got the right attitude. Nothing would make me happier than to see him turn it around this year.
Decker caught 8 TDs from the combo of Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow. Jordan Cameron had a breakout year last season catching passes from the trio of Brian Hoyer, Brandon Weeden, and Jason Campbell. Crying about bad QB play or lack of "chemistry" doesn't take away from the fact that Hill has been to this point in time exactly what every scout outside the Jets organization thought he was. Just read this. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/stephen-hill?id=2533537
The Hill pick was just a really bad use of resources. It was fantasy over factual evaluation, like so many other big picks in the Jets history.
