You don't think signing Michael Vick, perhaps the "flashiest" Player ever at the "flashiest" position isn't a flashy move? Chris Johnson wasn't a flashy move? Signing Ed Reed wasn't a flashy move?
It's not an issue of professionalism - it's a strategy for building a competitive team. Tanny made some risky picks, but he then compounded the risk by trading away draft picks. When those picks don't pan out, we have to go looking for FAs and our team gets older, thinner at certain positions, and we have cap issues. Idzik's strategy focuses on drafting and signing players to force competition at every position. This improves the team's overall depth and encourages late round draftees and fringe FAs to excel, which in turn keeps pushing your top tier/salary players. It's a meritocracy. We keep the best players and get rid of the rest. What I find funny is all of the bitching about why we didn't package picks to trade up. Didn't you people learn anything from the Tanny era? Yes, we're going to cut some draft picks, but we are also improving our chances of hitting on other draft picks that we didn't trade away. For example, did we really gain that much by trading our 4th and 7th round picks to move up 12 spots to take Shonn Greene in 2009? He contributed, but he wasn't a star. Could we have used the depth from two more draftable players? How about the two picks we gave up for Lito Sheppard? Braylon? Kris Jenkins?
All this talk about depth. Did I miss something? Did we a depth issue last year? Also, having a ton of late round picks doesn't necessarily equate to team depth. Greene, Braylon and Jenkins were integral parts of 2 AFCC runs so I think we did gain much. Lastly, there is a big difference between trading away picks when you only have 6-7 to start with vs trading away picks when you have 12.
[signings. BrowningNagle, post: 3001254, member: 1248"]You don't think signing Michael Vick, perhaps the "flashiest" Player ever at the "flashiest" position isn't a flashy move? Chris Johnson wasn't a flashy move? Signing Ed Reed wasn't a flashy move?[/quote]All those where Rex's signing.
I was/am the biggest Tanny detractor out there but you can't just bring up Tanny as a defense for every move Idzik makes.
So if it's flashy, it's Rex and if it's considered "professional", then it's Idzik. This Idzik hero worship needs to be reigned in.
I think Terry and our scouting department have been better than average in the draft during their tenure but we can always do better.
Most likely why Idz brought in a bunch of his own people from Seattle....but also kept on Terry and a few others from the old regime.
Define flashy. Ed Reed was flashy? What? He was at the tail end of his career and was signed after getting cut by another team. Not flashy. Chris Johnson was one of the better RBs out there, but we got good value out of the signing. not flashy. Michael Vick is flashy now? HOW? We didn't break the bank on any of those guys. It's not like we signed Ochocinco here. When folks talk about Tanny making flashy moves it's about signing the big name free agents to big deals.
Hill was considered a 1st-round pick who dropped into Round 2. I remember most mocks having him in Round 1. Ducasse was widely considered a 2nd-round talent. You could see why when you saw him play. Unfortunately, he was too raw, and that overwhelmed his physical talent. They didn't work out, but it's not because Tanny was trying to pull the "I'm smarter than you" card by reaching.
I think some of Tanny's signing were more bad than anything else. He overpaid a bunch of players but I don't know if the signings or the free agents themselves were really "flashy". Like you said, I guess it comes down to each person's definition of the word.
All those where Rex's signing.[/quote] What does that even mean? Rex signs flashy players and Idzik signs regular Free Agents?
Flashy doesn't mean expensive or at least thats not how I see it. Vick, Chris Johnson and Reed are not the consistent every down players, they are the flashy big play homerun hitting players.
A lot of Tanny's "signings" were actually trades. TJones Edwards Holmes Jenks Sheppard Cro Favre Tebow
well i hope idzik at least has college tape of all his picks.......... for those who dont recall - the only reason slauson became a jet is because the jets had NO tape of him - after watching 2 other guys on tape during draft day who sucked - they took slauson without review. unreal isn't it - thousands of hours and dollars going into scouting and no tape. funny thing is it worked out OK for both the jets and slauson.
Where did you get that story? Slauson played a Nebraska; it's not like he played a Rockland Community College; they should have easily found tape on him. Plus wasn't there the connection to Bill Callahan our oline coach at the time? I think Callahan was his HC at Nebraska.
