I remember reading that Milliner started to flourish towards the end of the season playing more zone. Here we are interested in Flowers who by all reports struggles in man-to-man. Idzik is fresh from Seattle where they played mostly zone. Has Rex been handed a mandate from Idzik that from now on man corners will no longer be one of the ingredients provided?
What we know... - Our secondary has bags of potential and right now that's all it is. - Brandon Flowers is starting caliber material . Of late not so. IF we made a play for Flowers, who's to say Rex can't again get the best out of a mediocre player and make him a pro bowler? We need to keep opposing Os off the field, Flowers would only help ..... for me its a no-brainer and agree with the 'tire-kickers'
That's a good point about Millner towards the end of the year. If we signed flowers could be a sign that we shift more to zone to better scheme to our players' abilities. Then we can leverage our dLine and get some pressure from our linebackers
Not Jets related, plus he doesn't really fit our schemes. I don't think it's worth bringing him in, although he could be mentor for the young corners. Could be a good depth move if the price is right but I don't see Idzik doing it. The unit is pretty deep unless somebody gets hurt. Then again, you can never have too many corners in today's league.
Verne "the Destroyer" Troyer was devastatingly effective as a nose tackle, punter, punt returner, and backup QB. He's the only "elite" sub-3' player I can remember off the top of my head. He was one of the most versatile players in the league, at 2'8" and a solid 55 lbs. He was headed for a HoF career with the Giants (ironically), until he landed the role of Mini-Me and lost his passion for the game. He was an run-stuffing ankle tackler who also led the league in pass deflections, and pioneered the two-handed throwing motion. He was also known for his inspiring locker room speeches, especially his famous "I am Literally a Giant" speech during halftime at the 1991 Super Bowl, where Parcells had been forced to bench an ineffective Phil Simms in favor Troyer. He rallied the team and led them back to a victory, despite getting off to a rough start when the center somehow snapped the ball over his head on the Giants' first 2 drives of the half.
This is a terrific write-up. Brings back a lot of memories. Most of my friends in H-S were Giants fans. It was 'Troyer this' and 'Troyer that' all the time. I hated him. But respected him. VT and LT on opposite ends. O-lines never did figure out out to triple-team two guys at once. That said, the best midget player ever had to have been Smoking Spaceman Robot. A bit before many of your times but I feel he'd dominate, even today. Best interior D-lineman ever.
Remember when throwing two-handed was just 'throwing like a girl'? Troyer changed all that. Interesting side note - Troyer was fundamental in getting the NFL to experiment with high-definition broadcasts. On some long shots in standard-definition he literally did not show up on the screen.
Yeah, the combination of LT & VT was game-breaking. Some people questioned taking him in the 1st round, but he did 25 reps of 225 lbs at the combine, and had an impressive 5 foot vertical leap, along with his 4.1 speed and 50 Wonderlic score. It's not easy to transition from college hoops and Olympic pole vaulting to the NFL, but he defied the odds. In single coverage situations he'd get down low, and flip guys over using his low center of gravity. I just watched Verne Troyer: A Football Life, and it was really informative. Smoking Spaceman Robot (a name he later changed to Rowe Bott) was before my time, but I have read a lot about him. He was one of the best players ever, until he tore his power cord.
KC's DC is Bob Sutton and I don't think he was released over money. I think that should tell us everything we need to know.
Zackly. Injury doesn't explain the way he was abused in 2013. And I know this isn't the right thread, but your boy Danny Green is now wearing a mothafuckin championship ring. OH FUCK YEAH
I acknowledge the term is not the most specific, but by upside promise I would think most would recognize that does not mean literally no upside. Instead I think by including promise was meant something more like a likelihood of upside. I don't think there's any likelihood that Walls would show significant upside if he started. That makes complete sense. The rest of what you say does not conflict with anything I said. McDougle at this point looks like a down the road guy, not someone you want starting on opening day.
Holy not knowing the fuck about football, Batman. It's like he wants to write a lawyer's memorandum about the vague concept of football.
we don't need mcdougle to start on opening day. we are not building a team for 2014, we are building a team that can sustain success. Patterson is a stop gap player but if healthy he can play until McDougle or whoever else we acquire in the coming years is ready to play.
As mentioned, he stunk under DC Bob Sutton who installed a press-man scheme and wound up mostly at slot corner and was a bust. The Chiefs tried to trade him but nobody wanted to take on his contract. Where he might go is Houston. He has a previous connection with Romeo Crennel who's now the Texans' DC and whose quarter-quarter-half coverage Flowers might again thrive in. Besides, cornerback depth is something the Texans need to address particularly when the talented but inconsistant Kareen Jackson's the best you've got.
