Coaching Staff lost this game

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  1. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    This game was lost by the coaching staff plain and simple. The Jets had a 21-9 lead with 2 minutes left in the half and had the ball in FG range with a first down, plus were getting the ball to start the second half. You have to manage the clock in that spot and not give the Packers the ball. At worst, it's 24-9 at halftime and the Jets receive the 2nd half kickoff. Instead, Marty dials up a pass to the end zone, Smith gets hit and throws a pick ( not his fault) and the Pack drives the field and turns 24-9 to 21-16. Then all the creative play calling early in the game goes out the window. The Pack can't stop the read option , but after torching them with it early in the game, we never see it again. Instead we get 7 step drops and long developing pass plays leaving Smith to face pressure.

    Then an interception is negated because the defense can't change personnel fast enough. Then before the timeout, MM calls three running plays in a row down , leading to a completely unnecessary 4 th and 4. The icing on the cake was the absurd time-out. Why was MM even calling that TO? Add in that Milliner looked slow and not ready to play , let alone cover one of the top wideouts in the NFL. He should not have played this week.
     
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  2. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    Yup pretty much sums it up
     
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    The pass is fine there. Everyone would have complained if we ran 3 times and then kicked a long FG and the Packers got the ball back with 1:30 left. You have to have balance and I though a pass there was fine.

    However, most of the other things I agree. MM started to lose handle of the game in the 2nd half and Rex couldn't find a way to slow down Nelson. The offense really bothered me because it seemed we went conservative in the 2nd half, but maybe it's just because the runs didn't go anywhere.

    Also, we definitely needed to take advantage of Geno's ability to run more. The Packers are notorious for not being able to stop that, and we really didn't hurt them with that at all.
     
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  4. Dierking

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    The talent on the field certainly seemed equal to the challenge.
     
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    I mostly agree with you. I don't fault letting Geno throw the pass to the end zone, the problem was that the jets 3rd string tight end has to make sure that interception doesn't happen. Instead of looking up for the ball and just letting the packer player line up underneath it, he has to clock that guy and make absolutely sure that ball is not caught - worst case its offensive pass interference. Also, while the pack kept dialing up the blitzes the jets should have been running some screen passes. Nowadays they have a great screen game and I can't understand why they didn't use it more.
     
  7. Jets Esq.

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    The run game was bad overall- our only chance was to hope that Geno could make a play for us. He did, but he wasn't good enough to overcome the F- coaching we had in the second half.
     
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    coaching was Dr.Jekyl and Mr.Hyde today for each half, we only got stupid going into the second half.
     
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  9. LongIslandBlitz

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    All I know is I'm so happy we saved that money and didn't sign a real CB in free agency,atleast there's that to be happy about right?We may get torched every week but atleast we saved some money!!
     
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    Amen. Why the pass to sudfeld on FIRST down with 2 minutes on clock and up 21-9? Rex and MM GAVE THIS ONE AWAY!
     
  11. FJF

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    i said the same thing in the game thread at the beginning of the 4th quarter.
    i am not to mad about the int. they went for the kill shot and the worst case scenario happened. but someone needed to step up and stop the snowball that started there. rex couldn't stop them in the 2 minute drill. (thats starting to be a concerning issue) marty couldn't get the offense up and running in the 2nd half.(we come out and drive the 2nd half opener for a td we change the momentum) . this was a leadership loss. and it starts at the top.
     
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  12. NYJets17

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    No..no I don't think I would have been upset at all
     
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    In Marty's defense, Sudfeld was open. It was only that Geno got hit that forced the INT there. He was stepping into it and Sudfeld looked like he was setting into a hole in the zone. Just bad pass protection. I completely understand the outrage though.
     
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    It was MM's job to tell Geno that if Sudfeld's not WIDE open, throw the goddamn ball away. It's also Geno's responsibility as the QB. It's Sudfeld for christsake - He was targeted once in the game. That's a gimmick play and I like going for 7 to put the game away if it's open, but it wasn't open. He should've thrown it away or taken the sack.
     
  15. NCJetsfan

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    I didn't get to see the game, but saw the highlights on NFL.com, read the recap and stats, and have read numerous other reviews of the game and comments here. There is absolutely no way the Jets should have lost this game after getting an 18 point lead. Where was the defensive genius that Rex supposedly has (according to many Jets fans)?

    The Packers are horrible vs the run, but the best the Jets could manage was 43 yards for Ivory, I think 21 for Chris Johnson, 26 for Geno and 16 for Bilal Powell? That's pathetic. Then there's the fact that the Jets were very successful with the read option, then MM went totally away from it. There's the lack of the screen to counter the Packers' blitzes. Evidently MM is not the great offensive mind that many on this site think he is. Sounds like his game plan had some serious problems with its design.

    I see the Jets got 4 sacks, but it doesn't sound as if the D was able to generate any real, consistent pressure on Rodgers the way the Packers were able to come back. This is worse considering the fact that especially with the Jets knowing that the Packers were going to be mostly passing, and with the fact that the Packers' OL sucks balls, that's inexcusable.

    Then there's the Jets' two best defensive players losing their cool (and control). Again, that goes on poor coaching. I place the blame squarely on Rex. Plain and simply this is not a disciplined team. Leadership and composure start at the top with the HC. If he can't instill it in his CS and players, then he's not worth much imo.
     
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  16. BleedGreen89

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    If Milliner was too hurt to play then he should have sat the fuck out...Nelson looked like Jerry goddamned Rice
     
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    Agreed. Poorly coached team gets these results.
     
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  18. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    CJ is invisible, there was an obvious reason the Titans let him walk and it wasn't because he was still a 2000, 1500 or 1000 yard back anymore. He'll be lucky to get 800 yards this year.
     
  19. BleedGreen89

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    CJ sucks...trade him for a bag of balls and start Ivory with a mix of Powell
     
  20. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    I'll also say the coaching staff's decision to activate Milliner looks like it burned them the way Nelson torched him. I don't know if last December was a fluke, if he was not ready to play or what but he was hot garbage today.
     
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